Jan 18th - Leo Sprinkle

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

R. Leo Sprinkle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I've got to quit readin and postin so I can pay attention... gone have to start ALL over from 45 min into it!!!

I do not think that I've heard the Jeremy UFO mag ad yet... lookin forward to that.

This dude, Leo, sounds like an honest type feller and very level headed... I will have to go back and actually hear his words and not just his overall vibe!

Glad to have him to hear tonight... strikes me as one I will really be into.

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

Wow... this is turnin out to be one of the best in a while (sayin somethin... been some GOODuns!)... David is goin some very cool places... I just came in from in the backyard, still havin it playin on a loop, and I hear him revealin some very awesome things about how he sees The Universe and the stars when he looks at them... good, cool stuff, and very resonate.

Mr. Leo is an awesome feller as well... it is cool hearin him bein so gently informed about some of the things regardin the "ufo culture parasites".

Thare's yall a quote... "Shedding the paranormal culture of its parasites". Or "The Paracast... The Anti Parasite"

EDIT:

Just hearin a beautiful moment at the 15min mark. Me too.

 

[marduk]

My Head Asplode.

I'm having so many problems with Dr. Sprinkle that I'm having trouble paying attention to the interview. Which is disappointing as I held him in such high regard.

2012? Ugh. Zacharia Stichin? Double ugh. (See these criticisms if interested)

And the myth of the 25-hour diurnal cycle is easily dismissed by taking 10 seconds to check wikipedia:

The myth of the 25-hour day

Early investigators determined the human circadian period to be 25 hours or more. They went to great lengths to shield subjects from time cues and daylight, but they were not aware of the effects of indoor electric lights. The subjects were allowed to turn on light when they were awake and to turn it off when they wanted to sleep. Electric light in the evening delayed their circadian phase. These results became well known.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-hno_17-0">[18]</sup>

The human circadian period

Modern research under very controlled conditions has shown the human period for adults to be just slightly longer than 24 hours on average. Czeisler et al at Harvard found the range for normal, healthy adults of all ages to be quite narrow: 24 hours and 11 minutes ± 16 minutes. The "clock" resets itself daily to the 24-hour cycle of the earth's rotation.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-hno_17-1">[18]</sup>

Circadian rhythm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Furthermore, neither the Earth's rotation or Mars's is fixed:

Over millions of years, the rotation is significantly slowed by gravitational interactions with the Moon: see tidal acceleration. However some large scale events, such as the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, have caused the rotation to speed up by around 3 microseconds.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-7">[8]</sup>

Earth's rotation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm all for the possibility (or even probability) that life in the solar system has been thrown about between Mars and Earth through meteoric impacts -- and hence could have started on either Earth, Mars, or somewhere else -- they would have been very simple organisms if they survived the rigors of space. Since we're not so simple we've obviously spent millions or billions of years evolving in Earth's ecosystem and I'm sure that our circadian rhythms would have adapted by now.

 

[Chuckleberryfinn]

Dr. Sprinkle is a dingbat.

 

[bobheck]

Dr. Sprinkle is a dingbat.

But he is a nice, gracious dingbat.

Seriously though, he did seem to place unfounded authority in questionable sources (rightly pointed out by the hosts). And, he really took a leap with that circadian period thing. "Twenty-four hours and 37 minutes. Boom (John Maddenish), that can only mean one thing and one thing only out of the trillions of possible combinations of influences, DNA structuring, and evolutionary turns. It means that humans are from Mars. Case closed, jury adjourned, judge gone home, courthouse locked."

Geez louise.

 

[AnnetteMarie]

Actually, I felt the good doctor was not dogmatic, and was willing to listen to an opposing viewpoint, and respected what Gene and David has to say when they disagreed with him.
Also, I felt the same about Gene and David respecting him, while disagreeing with certain of his opinions and offering background information to back up their statements.
Long as you are cool about it, and show respect to the hosts, I see no traffic accidents in your future...
that is a prediction.

 

[marduk]

Actually, I felt the good doctor was not dogmatic, and was willing to listen to an opposing viewpoint, and respected what Gene and David has to say when they disagreed with him.
Also, I felt the same about Gene and David respecting him, while disagreeing with certain of his opinions and offering background information to back up their statements.
Long as you are cool about it, and show respect to the hosts, I see no traffic accidents in your future...
that is a prediction.

As Voltaire said, "The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it."

However, just because he was a very nice man and didn't disagree with anyone on anything doesn't mean he's off the hook for the things he states. We're still responsible for rational assessment of what he's articulated.

As long as we're nice, I guess.

 

[Bixyboo]

Hey, great show, guys!

 

[exo_doc]

As Voltaire said, "The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it."

However, just because he was a very nice man and didn't disagree with anyone on anything doesn't mean he's off the hook for the things he states. We're still responsible for rational assessment of what he's articulated.

As long as we're nice, I guess.

I don't know really what to think of Mr. Sprinkle. He seems reasonably intelligent and rational. Yes he brought up "heresies", and discussed them. There's nothing wrong with doing that. At least it was food for thought....maybe junk food, but it still makes you think.

 

[bobheck]

Actually, I felt the good doctor was not dogmatic, and was willing to listen to an opposing viewpoint, and respected what Gene and David has to say when they disagreed with him.
Also, I felt the same about Gene and David respecting him, while disagreeing with certain of his opinions and offering background information to back up their statements.
Long as you are cool about it, and show respect to the hosts, I see no traffic accidents in your future...
that is a prediction.

Everybody all together now...

"Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya...."

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

Yes he brought up "heresies", and discussed them. There's nothing wrong with doing that. At least it was food for thought....maybe junk food, but it still makes you think.

Agreed. If everyone is expected to totally, absolutely have their shit together out of the box then there will be very few people that could be considered "accepted". He's a good guy. Good guys are allowed to make mistakes in their judgments / assessments and still be good guys, because their HEART is in the right place. It's only those who knowingly lie that need the scaldins... all he is is a little bit mixed up on what the latest findings against some old things are... he doesn't listen to all these shows and scour the net fer info... he has no net! He is old school and worthy of the respect that good hearted elders deserve, and Gene & Dave did an EXCELLENT job of both informing and respecting, so this should also go a long way toward showing where THEIR heart is... :shy:

Apparently, they are NOT just a couple of negativity filled arrogant assholes!!! Not that I thought they were, though I was certainly open minded to the possibility... , but people sometimes have wondered that say, once "the reputation" of scalding asses gits around then fraudsters will stop comin on or whatever, or maybe even non-fraudsters who's convictions are not buffeted well with confidence, might have reservations, but this CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES that they are nothin to b afraid of as long as you are humble enough to enter into full, open, expectedly intelligent discource and not fear the pointing out of positively IDd untruths. Only the weasels should tremble before Gene, Dave & The Gang! Quote, brothas!!!

It was good in so many ways I could never explore them all in text, but I really am grateful for it... it's the ONE that needed to happen next, it really is. That is also evidence that yall have the harmony and momentum of The Universe backin what you do... The Universe, apparently, desires truth and goodness to be done, and yall are doin some messengerin!

I thank yall should do MORE of the Jeremy UFO mag commercials though... don't be all Microsoft and tease us with the awesome Bill & Jerry stuff.

 

[pixelsmith]

i liked the show. Leo has no computer, internet or cell phone. one of the last good old boys.

 

[mike]

if the theory about the moon being a massive "space ship" and being deliberatly put in orbit by ET's/NHE's is true, is it possible that would have changed the length of the local day ?

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

i liked the show. Leo has no computer, internet or cell phone. one of the last good old boys.

Very nicely put! I know some very, VERY interesting people locally who have no computer or cell phone, or even cable TV. There is no way he could stay totally up to date on the happenings and findings and exposes, and his psychological view of "the UFO thing" was formed back in the days when a Billy model would be somewhat more believable. It's understandable, his level of current understanding.

I very much enjoyed too, his view that it did not matter to him whether a physical craft actually took a woman on a beam of light... what was important to HIM was the value of the experience fer the individual. Just because it's not a physical craft, or even if it is, and even if they do non nonsensical stuff as well er not, those things in and of themselves do not rule out that an intelligent interaction of some kind, with some "external being" is going down. Fer instance. :shy:

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

if the theory about the moon being a massive "space ship" and being deliberatly put in orbit by ET's is true, is it possible that would have changed the length of the local day ?

I would think not, as the moon doesn't have any effect that I can personally tell on the lengths of days. That would require an intentional tweaking of out position and relation to The Sun. It would be MUCH easier, I would imagine, to just tweak the position of The Earth instead.

 

[mike]

I would think not, as the moon doesn't have any effect that I can personally tell on the lengths of days. That would require an intentional tweaking of out position and relation to The Sun. It would be MUCH easier, I would imagine, to just tweak the position of The Earth instead.

yeah it struck me that many of the wiki entrys for the moons being here might entail a change in the earths rotation........and length of day

Formation





Several mechanisms have been suggested for the Moon's formation. The formation of the Moon is believed to have occurred 4.527 ± 0.010 billion years ago, about 30–50 million years after the origin of the Solar System.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-39>[40]</SUP>
<DL><DT>Fission hypothesis <DD>Early speculation proposed that the Moon broke off from the Earth's crust because of centrifugal forces, leaving a basin – presumed to be the Pacific Ocean – behind as a scar.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-40>[41]</SUP> This idea, however, would require too great an initial spin of the Earth; and, even had this been possible, the process should have resulted in the Moon's orbit following Earth's equatorial plane. This is not the case. </DD></DL><DL><DT>Capture hypothesis <DD>Other speculation has centered on the Moon being formed elsewhere and subsequently being captured by Earth's gravity.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-41>[42]</SUP> However, the conditions believed necessary for such a mechanism to work, such as an extended atmosphere of the Earth in order to dissipate the energy of the passing Moon, are improbable. </DD></DL><DL><DT>Co-formation hypothesis <DD>The co-formation hypothesis proposes that the Earth and the Moon formed together at the same time and place from the primordial accretion disk. The Moon would have formed from material surrounding the proto-Earth, similar to the formation of the planets around the Sun. Some suggest that this hypothesis fails adequately to explain the depletion of metallic iron in the Moon. </DD></DL><DL><DD>A major deficiency in all these hypotheses is that they cannot readily account for the high angular momentum of the Earth–Moon system.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-42>[43]</SUP> </DD></DL><DL><DT>Giant Impact hypothesis <DD>The prevailing hypothesis today is that the Earth–Moon system formed as a result of a giant impact. A Mars-sized body (labelled "Theia") is believed to have hit the proto-Earth, blasting sufficient material into orbit around the proto-Earth to form the Moon through accretion.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-worldbook_5-4>[6]</SUP> As accretion is the process by which all planetary bodies are believed to have formed, giant impacts are thought to have affected most if not all planets. Computer simulations modelling a giant impact are consistent with measurements of the angular momentum of the Earth–Moon system, as well as the small size of the lunar core.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-43>[44]</SUP> Unresolved questions regarding this theory concern the determination of the relative sizes of the proto-Earth and Theia and of how much material from these two bodies formed the Moon. </DD></DL>

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

Ah! Very interestin! So maybe they DID put The Moon there then, and adjust the length of the day!!! Very interestin.

 

[Frozen E.T. Burrito]

I was just relistening to the stuff he says about the galactic federation and the schools that we are put through and things like that... I find that all to be very plausible, and even very much likely, by metaphor at least... it need not be a fleet of starships that comes in once we are ready for it to be true... by metaphor at least.

 

[mike]

just about finished listening to the show.

i keep getting this idea that "Time" is the key.
on the topic of OBE's , i had one when i was about 5 yrs old, its a very distinct memory i have of being on my back on the couch in the lounge room, and suddenly finding i was floating at ceiling height and could see myself "below".
this may be nothing more than an unusual artifact of normal cerebral function, but thats how it seemed.
(years later i would study astral projection in great detail, but could never duplicate the event)

If, and i say if Time can be travelled as easily as space can, then that opens up some "cosmic" ramifications.....


we live our life and write our story "on the slate" , if time travel is possible...... then what we write on the slate remains even after we are dead, you could always "revist" the reality by travelling in time....

if what we do leaves an indelible mark so to speak in that context, then thats a thing to consider in depth.

so if we can "hold" this idea for a moment, is it possible that what we see when we see someone regressed hypnotically is simply someone having an out of the body input, from a remote place/time ?.

perhaps our minds only grasp half of the reality this way, we know we can move in space, we know we can walk from point A to point B, we can swim the distance even fly the distance....but Time is still "fixed" for us, we measure it the same way we do distance, but we dont "travel" it at will

theres almost a high spiritual aspect to the idea, if time travel is possible, if the marks we make during our existance are indelible, then no priest can forgive a sin, the mark is made there is no going back , what if what we do is there for all time for all to see (given the correct mechanisms) nothing is hidden its all "recorded"

if that were true, would it change the way you "do" things ?

i cant help thinking "time" is a huge factor and explaination for a lot of what has us stumped in the field

(if it wasnt obvious i enjoyed this weeks show for all the usual reasons, "food for thought, for a hungry mind")

 

[AnnetteMarie]

Everybody all together now...

"Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya...."

oh come on guys, just because he is slightly gullible in a nutty sort of way, doesn't mean he is supposed to be treated like a jerk.

He did something a lot of 'fanatical nuts' don't do and that was he listened to differing ideas from the hosts instead of doggedly insisting he was right on every point.

And they kindly shared with him a new way of thinking regarding some of his way out points, without needing a hammer to get their point across.

That is not to say some of the guests do not need a judicious hammering, but those are the ones who don't listen, and won't accept they could be wrong about ANYTHING.

but to continue on with the love, peace and kindness week,

ooohhh looorrdd, kumbaya.