Hello, and any help for a psychologist regarding resources?

[Psybear18]

Hi everyone,

I am a psychologist in private practice and I've been following the To the Stars Academy/Tom Delonge disclosure work.

I have been thinking a great deal about how to best help my patients and communities I serve deal with these evolving topics. I have found very little in the way of professional, scientific research regarding the psychology of disclosure as it addresses the psychological and emotional changes and difficulties it represents.

Would anyone have suggested reading material toward these ends? Sorry to welcome myself to the community by asking for assistance, but I figured the best way to start a conversation was to do so from a place of transparency. Thanks for reading!
CJ

 

[SRL+]

Speaking of transparency, if you wouldn't mind, please send me a private message with your contact information.

 

[Thomas R Morrison]

Speaking of transparency, if you wouldn't mind, please send me a private message with your contact information.

I'd strongly advise against that Psybear18. Providing your personal info to anonymous posters online strikes me as a chilling recipe for disaster.

Hi everyone,

I am a psychologist in private practice and I've been following the To the Stars Academy/Tom Delonge disclosure work.

I have been thinking a great deal about how to best help my patients and communities I serve deal with these evolving topics. I have found very little in the way of professional, scientific research regarding the psychology of disclosure as it addresses the psychological and emotional changes and difficulties it represents.

Would anyone have suggested reading material toward these ends? Sorry to welcome myself to the community by asking for assistance, but I figured the best way to start a conversation was to do so from a place of transparency. Thanks for reading!
CJ

That's a very noble and thoughtful response to this developing situation. I wish I knew of any such studies that might be useful to you.

Perhaps, since I tend to doubt that any such studies have been done regarding this particular situation, one might find studies regarding analogous historical developments? Though honestly I'm hard-pressed to think of a suitable analogy...

 

[SRL+]

I'd strongly advise against that Psybear18. Providing your personal info to anonymous posters online strikes me as a chilling recipe for disaster.

Lol... you crack me up. Then the newbie can contact Gene providing him with their credentials, as I'm not about to trust someone new along with their claims @ face value.

 

[Thomas R Morrison]

Lol... you crack me up. Then the newbie can contact Gene providing him with their credentials, as I'm not about to trust someone new along with their claims @ face value.

Just trying to offer some sensible neighborly advice to our new friend, S.R.I.

I see this differently: this is an online chat board - nobody's required or expected to prove their credentials to anybody, and frankly I think it's super rude to even ask. I mean, you and I haven't been asked to prove our identities to anybody - why the hell should he have to?

Nobody is required to accept his credentials at face value if they don't feel like it (and I know you don't, because you're super suspicious of everything and everyone, it seems).

It's a chat board: it's up to each and every one of us to make of it what they will (or won't, as the case may be). It's not like he's here to provide therapy services for anybody (though come to think of it, that might not be a bad idea...tell us about your relationship with your mother, S.R.I. ... = )

 

[SRL+]

Just trying to offer some sensible neighborly advice to our new friend, S.R.I.

I see this differently: this is an online chat board - nobody's required or expected to prove their credentials to anybody, and frankly I think it's super rude to even ask. I mean, you and I haven't been asked to prove our identities to anybody - why the hell should he have to?

Nobody is required to accept his credentials at face value if they don't feel like it (and I know you don't, because you're super suspicious of everything and everyone, it seems).

It's a chat board: it's up to each and every one of us to make of it what they will (or won't, as the case may be). It's not like he's here to provide therapy services for anybody (though coem to think of it, that might not be a bad idea...tell us about your relationship with your mother, S.R.I. ... = )

I call bullshit. Gene knows who I am, and have been here much longer than you. It's not my problem if you feel insecure and threatened.

 

[Thomas R Morrison]

I call bullshit. Gene knows who I am, and have been here much longer than you.

How nice for Gene - I had no idea that he knows who you are. I'm sure that Gene can ask for himself, if he ever feels that he needs to get Psybear18's identity and a copy of his doctorate certificate (which I seriously doubt he would ever even think to ask for, because that would be a freaky and inappropriate way to treat a forum member). Not really sure why you're pulling the seniority card. Congratulations?

 

[SRL+]

Big difference Tom, as I am not claiming to be a mental healthcare professional.

 

[Han]

Please leave you personal stuff in the appropriate thread.

(there isn't one btw)

I am sorry but it is not hard to understand that a patient doctor relationship is based on trust.

Maybe @Psybear18 would see SRL's request as normal? I would and do.

I agree that too much info can be dangerous, but not as dangerous as a 'fake' doctor.

Don't want to dig over old ground but this has happened before in abduction cases with serious consequences.

 

[Han]

Hi everyone,

I am a psychologist in private practice and I've been following the To the Stars Academy/Tom Delonge disclosure work.

I have been thinking a great deal about how to best help my patients and communities I serve deal with these evolving topics. I have found very little in the way of professional, scientific research regarding the psychology of disclosure as it addresses the psychological and emotional changes and difficulties it represents.

Would anyone have suggested reading material toward these ends? Sorry to welcome myself to the community by asking for assistance, but I figured the best way to start a conversation was to do so from a place of transparency. Thanks for reading!
CJ

This is quite old but still may be relevant:

Brookings Report - Wikipedia

Description[edit]
Although the report discusses the need for research on many policy issues related to space exploration, it is most often cited for passages from its brief section on the implications of a discovery of extraterrestrial life.[citation needed]

The report touches on the possibility of covering up extraterrestrial life

 

[SRL+]

If there were only a polygraph app for a smart, or, iPhone …

 

[Han]

Polygraphs can be beaten with training, they are not admissible evidence in a court of law over here in the UK.
The only time they are used is on something like our Jerry Springer equivalent TV shows.

 

[SRL+]

A court reporter told me that if one were to stay up without sleeping for a few days, they would likely pass a polygraph. I have not a clue as how that might work.

 

[Han]

I don't know if that is true or not.
If it is, maybe it could because your brain is so tired, you don't react in the normal way? maybe a bit like brain/vital sign lag or something?

 

[withoutlimits09]

Speaking of transparency, if you wouldn't mind, please send me a private message with your contact information.

What makes you so special? Why would he need to send you his personal contact information? He is simply asking for specific literature that might be helpful to him. Who cares who he is.

The worst case scenario is that he is a total fraud....however, I still don't see how providing him a few suggestions would matter either way.

Now if he said, "Hey everyone, I am a clinical psychologist in private practice and want to offer up my services to anyone on this board that thinks they were abducted..." then it would be important to verify his background, but no real psychologist would ever do something that stupid.

People need to get off their high horses about verifying everyone's background, it is a "discussion forum" about UFOs, not peer reviewed academics.

If Chris, Gene, or another Admin/Mod feels they need someone's contact information, that should be up to them to make that call. There seems to be a cabal of people on this site that believe they carry more weight than others, and can therefore, demand private information, or throw out crazy accusations to people on this site, or even guests of the show.

 

[SRL+]

There's a difference between special and inquiring, as any reasonable individual would want to know who this person might be. Again, this isn't everyone, it is an individual who claims to be a mental heath care professional and to know the inner workings of the human mind by the way they look & speak. If you don't care.., that's your own business.

 

[withoutlimits09]

There's a difference between special an inquiring, as any reasonable individual what want to know who this person might be. Again, this isn't everyone, it is an individual who claims to be a mental heath care professional and to know the inner workings of the human mind by the way they look & speak. If you don't care.., that's your own business.

You missed my point...Why does he have to disclose his personal contact information to YOU? What makes YOU the person he needs to contact.

I find myself pretty reasonable and don't have any problem with what this person has posted or asked. On the contrary, I don't think it's reasonable that he must send a random forum member his personal contact information. Who are YOU exactly. What qualifications do you have to assess someone's professional background or conduct any sort of inquiry into their background or information.

Who cares that he says he is a mental health specialist who is interested in literature on these topics. It would be like a pilot coming on the forums saying,

"Hey guys, I am a pilot for a major airline, and in the wake of the Nimitz footage, it got me thinking about UFOs, can someone recommend some good books that might shed more light on this mystery..."

Would you then say, "Ummm please supply me your personal contact information, because you claim to be an airline pilot, and you are responsible for many lives when you take control of that airplane, so we need to be damn sure who you are before we recommend any UFO books to you!..."

Even if he wasn't an airline pilot it wouldn't matter.

Now if this CJ guy isn't a real doctor, it won't matter, because he won't have any actual patients. If he is a real doctor, then he will have the proper training to assess and implement any information he does gleam from people's resources on this site. That wouldn't be up to you to decide how a doctor would use the information, he would be the trained professional not you. So either way, lying or truthful, it doesn't matter...

Too many of you take this crap way too seriously, a guy came on to the forum and asked for some reading tips....that's all. You all want to conduct a CIA level background check before sending him a link to something.

Stupid.

 

[SRL+]

You missed my point...Why does he have to disclose his personal contact information to YOU? What makes YOU the person he needs to contact.

It doesn't have to be me, as previously mentioned.

Who cares that he says he is a mental health specialist who is interested in literature on these topics.

Actually, it does matter as stated they believe Elizondo's story entirely on body language and speech.
One more time.., if this person is authentic they will cheerfully provide some type of assurance to someone.., anyone for that matter.

Stupid.

Definition of STUPID
You're so far off the mark, you're not even wrong.

 

[Thomas R Morrison]

Actually, it does matter as stated they believe Elizondo's story entirely on body language and speech.

BOOM! There it is.

S.R.I. has got his knickers all in a twist because he's convinced himself that Luis Elizondo is perpetrating some kind of elaborate fraud upon an unsuspecting public, by releasing declassified Pentagon ufo information, lol. And he's all mad now because a trained psychologist agreed with me that Mr. Elizondo shows zero indication of deception in any of his multitude of interesting interviews. But it doesn't take a trained psychologist to see that the man is an earnest upstanding dude just telling it like it is: a drunken monkey could see it. The only people who don't seem to see it, have some kind of warped pathological investment in intentionally not seeing it, because they're incapable of entertaining the mind-blowing notion that not everyone who's ever worked for the government is a disinformation agent out to discredit the ufo community.

But here's the really crazy part, lol: I've already provided a link to a trained expert in forensic body language analysis, who reached that exact same conclusion:
Body Language Analysis №4155: Luis Elizondo Interview — Former Military Intelligence Official Who…

So S.R.I., buddy: it's a completely moot point whether Psybear18 is an accredited doctor - we already have an expert in the field publicly making that claim. So now, if you want to argue the point, then fine: give us a link to a different accredited forensic body language expert who claims that Mr. Elizondo shows indications of being the liar that you're convinced that he is, despite a complete vacuum of evidence to support your wild and frequently vicious little allegations. Then you'll actually have a leg to stand on.

I am sorry but it is not hard to understand that a patient doctor relationship is based on trust.

Maybe @Psybear18 would see SRL's request as normal? I would and do.

I agree that too much info can be dangerous, but not as dangerous as a 'fake' doctor.

Don't want to dig over old ground but this has happened before in abduction cases with serious consequences.

The man came here to ask us for advice about finding info on the psychological consequences of disclosure. He doesn't have a doctor/patient relationship with anyone here, nor is he soliciting any.

This is an online ufo/paranormal/ghost forum, for god sakes. A professional psychologist would have be a complete nutter to go handing the fate of his professional credibility over to some complete strangers here, and cross his fingers that it doesn't get out that he's participating in these kinds of conversations.

How is this not completely obvious to you guys? Demanding an ID in this context is totally insane and unreasonable. Jimminee.

 

[SRL+]

BOOM! There it is.

S.R.I. has got his knickers all in a twist because he's convinced himself that Luis Elizondo is perpetrating some kind of elaborate fraud upon an unsuspecting public, by releasing declassified Pentagon ufo information, lol. And he's all mad now because a trained psychologist agreed with me that Mr. Elizondo shows zero indication of deception in any of his multitude of interesting interviews. But it doesn't take a trained psychologist to see that the man is an earnest upstanding dude just telling it like it is: a drunken monkey could see it. The only people who don't seem to see it, have some kind of warped pathological investment in intentionally not seeing it, because they're incapable of entertaining the mind-blowing notion that not everyone who's ever worked for the government is a disinformation agent out to discredit the ufo community.

But here's the really crazy part, lol: I've already provided a link to a trained expert in forensic body language analysis, who reached that exact same conclusion:
Body Language Analysis №4155: Luis Elizondo Interview — Former Military Intelligence Official Who…

So S.R.I., buddy: it's a completely moot point whether Psybear18 is an accredited doctor - we already have an expert in the field publicly making that claim. So now, if you want to argue the point, then fine: give us a link to a different accredited forensic body language expert who claims that Mr. Elizondo shows indications of being the liar that you're convinced that he is, despite a complete vacuum of evidence to support your wild and frequently vicious little allegations. Then you'll actually have a leg to stand on.


The man came here to ask us for advice about finding info on the psychological consequences of disclosure. He doesn't have a doctor/patient relationship with anyone here, nor is he soliciting any.

This is an online ufo/paranormal/ghost forum, for god sakes. A professional psychologist would have be a complete nutter to go handing the fate of his professional credibility over to complete strangers here, and cross his fingers that it doesn't get out that he's participating in these kinds of conversations.

How is this not completely obvious to you guys? Demanding an ID in this context is totally insane and unreasonable. Jimminee.

Boom.., you cite this guy?

Body Language Analysis №4196: Trey Gowdy on “Face The Nation” — Nonverbal and Emotional…

Again, out in the weeds, as you continue your tirade, while now your attention turns toward the forum's pacifist, Han.