Well, here I was this morning with some time on my hands. My wife is visiting her sister and family and I am here with just my dogs. (and as a side note, while on my computer, honest to God, this morning suddenly a strange dog popped into my office .. apparently he jumped over the fence, and he popped in to say hello. I escorted him out of the yard!)
At any rate, I was scanning some stuff up on the ATS site, looking at their Phil Imbrogno thread, and noticed there were additional pages there since I last visited. Now, any of you that were around last year know my feelings on what Imbrogno did. He lied about his academic background, he lied about his military service, he lied about his "adventures" in Viet Nam, I do not know how I could be anymore disgusted with this guy. And now, by the way the first time I saw this ... he popped up on the Rob McConnell X-zone radio show <lambasting the UFO field!> Jesus! Talk about chutzpa! However that is typical with frauds in general. So, why am I writing about this now?
If you read my report on Imbrogno .. Imbrogno, Fraud, Stolen Valor | The Paracast Community Forums and read Lance Moody's report then you know that Imbrogno's unmasking happened here on The Paracast. When Lance first approached me, as I reported in my report, I as very skeptical of his motives. Actually what I said was ..
5-3-2011
"Okay Lance, before you and I go any further with this, I have a question for you.
Where are you going with this? What's the deal, like what bee got under your bonnet on Imbrogno?
Let me tell you what I think, okay? You know I was a cop and for what it is worth I still have those cop gut instincts. I think you fancy yourself as the next Phil Klass and you are looking around for some schmuck's scalp that you can hang on your belt, right? I mean lets not bull shit each other. You know I am a pretty straight ahead on kind of guy. I won't bull shit you and you don't bull shit me. A guy, like you, who thinks all of this paranormal stuff is horse shit sure hangs around on a forum that is devoted to it, and occasionally you go out of your way to stir the shit. Why? I mean Lance, why would a guy who thinks the UFO subject is bull shit hang around here with lots of folks who in fact think there is something to the subject, just so you might now and again take a piss in their corn flakes?
So here is the deal, you tell me what is up or I have no further interest in discussing any of this with you. Now, I do believe that is plain enough.
Decker"
The reason for my rough tone with Lance was the fact that not long before we had a clash here on the DMR forum over a show with Dr. John Brandenburg that was just about to happen. In other words it had not aired yet. Lance popped in here using a somewhat disparaging tone about some of the research and John Brandenburg in particular. I was fully less than happy and let Lance know that. At any rate I was distrustful of his motives. However, Lance did a really stellar job on his unmasking Imbrogno which caused me to do my research on his military claims. Okay, that is out of the way.
So, here I am on the computer clicking on links when I ended up on the James Randi forum where the topic of Imbrogno was being discussed. I had not seen this prior but in Lance's initial note he said;
"Hello JREFers,
I just wanted to mention my recently published blog account of taking down the famous UFO author, Philip J. Imbrogno.
It seems that Imbrogno's impressive credentials were all a fabrication. Shortly after I began my investigation, Imbrogno announced that he was leaving the field. In my article, I also tie together this event with past frauds in UFOology.
Admittedly this is not related to the topic of Feminism in Skepticism but I still thought some folks here might be interested.
Thanks,
Lance Moody
My blog: notaghost com"
Prominent UFO Author exposed - JREF Forum
Okay, on the one hand I understand Lance being proud, from his standpoint, of taking down a fraud! But, having read the sentence "I just wanted to mention my recently published blog account of taking down the famous UFO author, Philip J. Imbrogno." several times, for whatever reason ... it hit me wrong. I recall stating to Lance that "I think you fancy yourself as the next Phil Klass and you are looking around for some schmuck's scalp that you can hang on your belt, right?" So my question to anyone reading this is pretty straightforward. Am I reading more into this than is there? I like to think at this point that Lance was simply following up on what he thought might be a spurious claim, and not simply aiming at a high profile UFO guy and trying to take the asshole down!!
Your thoughts?
Decker
At any rate, I was scanning some stuff up on the ATS site, looking at their Phil Imbrogno thread, and noticed there were additional pages there since I last visited. Now, any of you that were around last year know my feelings on what Imbrogno did. He lied about his academic background, he lied about his military service, he lied about his "adventures" in Viet Nam, I do not know how I could be anymore disgusted with this guy. And now, by the way the first time I saw this ... he popped up on the Rob McConnell X-zone radio show <lambasting the UFO field!> Jesus! Talk about chutzpa! However that is typical with frauds in general. So, why am I writing about this now?
If you read my report on Imbrogno .. Imbrogno, Fraud, Stolen Valor | The Paracast Community Forums and read Lance Moody's report then you know that Imbrogno's unmasking happened here on The Paracast. When Lance first approached me, as I reported in my report, I as very skeptical of his motives. Actually what I said was ..
5-3-2011
"Okay Lance, before you and I go any further with this, I have a question for you.
Where are you going with this? What's the deal, like what bee got under your bonnet on Imbrogno?
Let me tell you what I think, okay? You know I was a cop and for what it is worth I still have those cop gut instincts. I think you fancy yourself as the next Phil Klass and you are looking around for some schmuck's scalp that you can hang on your belt, right? I mean lets not bull shit each other. You know I am a pretty straight ahead on kind of guy. I won't bull shit you and you don't bull shit me. A guy, like you, who thinks all of this paranormal stuff is horse shit sure hangs around on a forum that is devoted to it, and occasionally you go out of your way to stir the shit. Why? I mean Lance, why would a guy who thinks the UFO subject is bull shit hang around here with lots of folks who in fact think there is something to the subject, just so you might now and again take a piss in their corn flakes?
So here is the deal, you tell me what is up or I have no further interest in discussing any of this with you. Now, I do believe that is plain enough.
Decker"
The reason for my rough tone with Lance was the fact that not long before we had a clash here on the DMR forum over a show with Dr. John Brandenburg that was just about to happen. In other words it had not aired yet. Lance popped in here using a somewhat disparaging tone about some of the research and John Brandenburg in particular. I was fully less than happy and let Lance know that. At any rate I was distrustful of his motives. However, Lance did a really stellar job on his unmasking Imbrogno which caused me to do my research on his military claims. Okay, that is out of the way.
So, here I am on the computer clicking on links when I ended up on the James Randi forum where the topic of Imbrogno was being discussed. I had not seen this prior but in Lance's initial note he said;
"Hello JREFers,
I just wanted to mention my recently published blog account of taking down the famous UFO author, Philip J. Imbrogno.
It seems that Imbrogno's impressive credentials were all a fabrication. Shortly after I began my investigation, Imbrogno announced that he was leaving the field. In my article, I also tie together this event with past frauds in UFOology.
Admittedly this is not related to the topic of Feminism in Skepticism but I still thought some folks here might be interested.
Thanks,
Lance Moody
My blog: notaghost com"
Prominent UFO Author exposed - JREF Forum
Okay, on the one hand I understand Lance being proud, from his standpoint, of taking down a fraud! But, having read the sentence "I just wanted to mention my recently published blog account of taking down the famous UFO author, Philip J. Imbrogno." several times, for whatever reason ... it hit me wrong. I recall stating to Lance that "I think you fancy yourself as the next Phil Klass and you are looking around for some schmuck's scalp that you can hang on your belt, right?" So my question to anyone reading this is pretty straightforward. Am I reading more into this than is there? I like to think at this point that Lance was simply following up on what he thought might be a spurious claim, and not simply aiming at a high profile UFO guy and trying to take the asshole down!!
Your thoughts?
Decker