yes, i wanted to go back to that thread and pick that point up again, but i'm just a little mentally bogged down by the implications that everything is an illusion and that our sensory experience is not as "consciousness" oriented as I once thought. this is plaguing me a little, making both the purpose of poetry and source of UFO sightings dissolve into the unknowable ether.
I honestly don't think this is an illusion as much as I do an interactive interpretation based on cyclical reflection. I think of consciousness in the same way one might speculate about black matter or dark energy. It's a relationship thing. Nothing in our universe is self contained but rather is an interactive interpretation via our natural orientation.
Science often brings up the amazing point that despite the immense amount of understanding that nature has afforded us via experimentation and studies, we simply have no clue what holds it all together. This stuff we refer to as baryonic matter is extremely puzzling stuff. There is simply no reasonable explanation as to why all those atoms and molecules don't just fly apart in a trillion different directions right this minute.
IMO, the secret is consciousness. Consciousness has no ability to think. It does not hold knowledge. It is not experience. It is the medium in which the human mind's perceptions of everything find meaning due to our own willful explorations and experiences.
when you say that you KNEW of both objects, do you mean that you knew of UFO's and so whatever the stimulus was that prompted your shared sighting, that it was coloured by previous knowledge? more than "cultural frontloading," there seems to be a lot going on in the mix from the point of some unique, and original stimulus that senses perceive as some strange outline but the brain conjures up the rest and fills in the details etc.. i'm trying to understand if there is something real on the edge of our senses, that is all around us, but that is invisible to us because we have no previous knowledge vs. those who might have some knowledge of objects and then the distortion that is the mental TV screen projects the illusion of reality in the way that it does combined with that previous knowledge.
The emboldened statement above IMO, is a hypothetical overview of our cognitive relationship to consciousness. We are perceptively interactive within it continually. As cognitive beings, we function on many different levels. We have knowledge within our memories, but we have infinity within our imaginations. Therefore infinity is not a property of consciousness, but rather one of inherent cognitive interpretation via our natural orientation within consciousness. That orientation is the mechanistic part of us. Our limited vision and light spectrum. The precise electrical firing and cycling of the brain and all the relative illusions that time and relativity afford us.
EDIT: Duh! I forgot to answer your question about my experience. I recognized precisely what I had already become aware of via UFO reporting. One Roger Marsh report, and one video of what it was I witnessed, or something very similar.
in that way, anyone who doesn't have knowledge of certain things simply would not see them or they would be transformed, and things that do appear, our brain tries to turn it into something familiar...maybe they weren't airships at all they saw a century or so ago? maybe it was just the best thing the brains of that era could conjure up and turn them into.
It might seem that way, but IMO (remember, that's all this is) it doesn't factor out that way due to experimentation. In fact, it almost works the exact opposite. Always reflect on the double slit experiment. Observation seems to be a gateway for an interactive informational processing rooted within the matrix of our cognitive determinations. The mind does not "make up" reality, but rather assembles it based on the unity that the human condition's continuity represents mechanistically.
it's puzzling, this whole reality thing. all i know for sure is that my senses can be very easily confused all on their own and that most of my life is running on autopilot. i'm starting to see the value of buddhist mindfulness on a whole new level now, that and learning all there is to learn, so i can perceive reality just that little bit more accurately.
Yes and no IMO. Yes, this stuff we call reality is COOL and extremely mind boggling!! However, when we adopt the Buddhist way we seek to empty ourselves, not fill ourselves with knowledge. True enlightenment is inherently revealed, NEVER learned. Learning is very, very good however as it demonstrates and thereby develops our ability to reflect as sentient creatures. This is the most important part of learning. The building and development of the cognitive facility that we possess through meditation, reflection, & contemplation. However to progress, we must reflect, and if we are continually devouring books and all the knowledge they contain, we are left with a bloated and confused waterlogged sponge. That my friend is the nature of the Toa/Doa. Less is more.