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Coronavirus & The Entertainment Industry



kronoz

Paranormal Novice
I do not know where to post this? However I feel compelled that it is a matter of great importance to the Public, a matter that needs to become a narrative.

If posted in an incorrect 'moderated' forum, please move to the correct sub-theme-forum.

An observation.....

Every TV adv that one may view, within which one sees protrayed, at least one or two Blacks being presented (simply identifies that the ads are being made during the pandemic period), and while the rest of us and our businesses are being governmentally shutdown, and everyone is mandated by law to wear masks, and to maintain a social distance of 6 feet/2m separation, there is **NO** social distancing or masks being worn by the actors in those TV ads. One significant example that I find very offensive, is a TV chocolate ad, that depicts two adorable young Black American girls, sitting side-by-side merrially eating chocolates. No masks. There are touching each other.

What is so important in that adv, that the producers are willing to irresponsibly expose those little girls to a deadly virus? That is what the veiwing audience should see, however that is not what is happening in the room in which those young girls are performing the scripted TV scene. No, hidden behind the barrier of the camera line, there are typically 12 ~ 15 people, some of whom are likely strangers, in that room, many of whom are contractors. They are lighting people, electrical 'wire-weasles', heavy equipment lifting 'grips', set-constructors, directors, assistant directors, sound recording people, boom operators, and camera operators. None of them are wearing masks or maintaining social distancing.

You'll not see the ads the same way as you did before. Just watch...how many of those actors are social distancing? How many are wearing masks? How many people are being infected? Our kids are not allowed to attend in-person in school, but the advertisers are allowed to put un-protected children together with adults, in scenes of bedrooms slurping down those throat soothing cough-syrups, inside automobiles, eating cereals with adult actors; adults hugging one and another.

How many Hollywood people have lost their jobs? Have been laid-off? Have had their businesses shut-down?

How is it that they, that Hollywood, all those people are so exempt? What makes the Hollywood businesses, their people so special, that they can violate ALL of the epidemic based, mandated 'scien-politistic' virus prevention strategies imposed that the rest of us are forced to follow? That they can put children, older aged actors and actresses, Black, Brown and Whites side-by-side in dozens of TV advertisements? All working cloesly together in 'sets'...rooms filled with strangers; film crews who eat outside in tents, while restaraunts next door are shut down for indoor and outdoor dining because of the potential of spreading the deadly China virus through contact with strangers.

Faced with authentic conspiracies most folks are oblivious.

Hollywood has historically demonstrated that they are VERY POOR GUIDES for both the American and the World's Public. Since the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and then even now to a much lesser extent, these are same 'quality' poeple, --'Hollywood', that guided and influenced the World's public directly into the lung cancer grave yards with all of the cigarettes hanging from their movie lips. What they are doing now, is perpetuating a horrible, tragedy filled, deadly virus, and for what? Money? Because they so special they are exempt from the health mandates of the entire world?

Gotta have those TV advs, irregardless of how many people they kill as result of producing them.

Remember Hollywood is special. They are exempt from the health laws of the United States, and as such, **They are** above the law.

These are the same people who guided the minds of the American People in the Presidential election.

They are also the fake 'TV news' media.

Perhaps they are just selfish greedy people or maybe they are democrat-socialist agents of the Communist Party? In either case they are nasty people.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
The fake TV news media begins with Fox News and extends to Newsmax and other conservative sites who want to fear-monger their viewers and not deliver the truth about what's going on. They want to sell you overpriced pillows and fake remedies to build ad revenues and enrich their sponsors. To them, you are a mark, a source of profit.

You need to expand your focus and get out of your bubble.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
I didn't respond to the rest of your rant in detail, because it's incoherent and fundamentally fake news.

But here's a brief answer:

In fact, Hollywood — the entertainment industry — shut down early in the pandemic. TV seasons were cut short by several episodes, and most of you know which ones.

The sets have mostly reopened carefully, with regular testing, mask wearing and social distancing for the workers. Yes, masks are removed when the cameras are rolling, at least when the scene doesn't call for a mask (and you'll see plenty of mask wearing on "NCIS: New Orleans" for example), but they are put back on.

There have been some COVID-19 outbreaks, and sets thus closed down for a while. One example is "The Batman."

So maybe you need to read the real news for a while rather than the fake news from your little bubble on Earth 2. If you want to know who believes they are above the law, start with the White House, where dozens of people have been infected.
 

Randall

J. Randall Murphy
I do not know where to post this? However I feel compelled that it is a matter of great importance to the Public, a matter that needs to become a narrative ...
I appreciate the views of those who look behind the facade to reveal ways in which we are manipulated, particularly by the media and its associated propaganda. That being said, I'm more of an individualist than an ideologue, so I'd be inclined to say that there are all types of individuals in the entertainment industry, including some of the best and some of the worst, and everyone in between.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
This is just about how the entertainment industry is handling the pandemic, and their general approach — misrepresented by the original poster — has been to be cautious and keep the workers as safe as possible. I suppose there are exceptions, of course. That's to be expected, but I don't see manipulation in explaining how they are filming their shows.
 

Randall

J. Randall Murphy
This is just about how the entertainment industry is handling the pandemic, and their general approach — misrepresented by the original poster —
Well, assuming @kronoz did see a commercial with two young Black American girls, sitting side-by-side merrilly eating chocolates in physical contact without masks, and the commercial was filmed during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the two girls weren't tested for COVID-19, or it wasn't just some kind of green screen trick ... I don't know. I guess we'd have to know more about the actual details and circumstances, but on the surface, I can see how one might draw conclusions.
has been to be cautious and keep the workers as safe as possible. I suppose there are exceptions, of course. That's to be expected, but I don't see manipulation in explaining how they are filming their shows.
That sounds reasonable. Maybe the bigger issue is that coronaphobia is being used to justify the bashing of anyone and anything that doesn't conform to the measures and restrictions. So in this example, there's no conclusive evidence that any otherwise healthy child has actually died from COVID-19. The statistics are so low that the two girls were at far more risk during transportation to and from the set than from COVID-19.

Oh, but then the coronaphobes say that the girls themselves could be carriers, and they might infect someone else who might have a condition that puts them at risk, and that person might die as a result. That's a lot of maybes to pin the guilt for someone's potential death on, let alone two young girls on film set. And besides that, since when did things switch from a presumption of innocence to the presumption of guilt, based entirely assumptions?

When something gives someone the power to be extra critical of someone else, there's always someone who is going to leverage it, but I think maybe kronos just had a sort of ah-ha moment that was probably well intentioned, but needs to be verified before assigning guilt.
 
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Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
Well, assuming @kronoz did see a commercial with two young Black American girls, sitting side-by-side merrilly eating chocolates in physical contact without masks, and the commercial was filmed during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the two girls weren't tested for COVID-19, or it wasn't just some kind of green screen trick ... I don't know. I guess we'd have to know more about the actual details and circumstances, but on the surface, I can see how one might draw conclusions.
Obviously the commercial doesn't reveal the circumstances under which it was filmed and the protections the production company and crew took to protect the workers. Hence no conclusion can be drawn. Thus the rant is just plain stupid. The steps the entertainment industry have taken are widely known, except possibly in the tiny bubble that poster lives in.

Indeed, many of the new TV shows filmed after these precautions were set up do show performers in the same room, near each other. If anyone tests positive, sets are shut down and measures taken to make sure others weren't impacted. "The Batman" set was closed down briefly for that reason a few months back.
 

Randall

J. Randall Murphy
Obviously the commercial doesn't reveal the circumstances under which it was filmed and the protections the production company and crew took to protect the workers. Hence no conclusion can be drawn. Thus the rant is just plain stupid.
I wouldn't say it's "stupid". That's being a little harsh on the forum participant. I would say that because we don't know all the circumstances, it would be better to reserve judgement. But I would agree that generally speaking, there is a contradiction between how we're supposed to behave during the pandemic, and what is portrayed on the screens.
The steps the entertainment industry have taken are widely known, except possibly in the tiny bubble that poster lives in.
I think we could leave out the part about the"tiny bubble". That's the sort of "personal" stuff I was encouraging people to avoid in constructive discussions. Let's try to be better examples ourselves.
Indeed, many of the new TV shows filmed after these precautions were set up do show performers in the same room, near each other. If anyone tests positive, sets are shut down and measures taken to make sure others weren't impacted. "The Batman" set was closed down briefly for that reason a few months back.
I don't doubt that. I've also seen a few examples where masks and social distancing are portrayed. But one thing I really don't get is what the point of the thread's title was to all this, so I took the liberty of changing it to something that made sense in light of the content.

I'm also not sure if this subject belongs in the forum at all. There's no paranormal aspect to it, and we've been through the conspiracy angle on the origin of the pandemic and how it has been managed. If there's a connection between any of that and the entertainment industry, I don't see it. About all I see is a seemingly more general left-wing attitude in the entertainment industry, but I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions too.

If we were going to talk about greed amid the pandemic, there are other candidates in the running, including giants like Amazon, where there's been a lot of talk about worker burn-out while the company rakes in record profits.

There's also issues like the government here locking down the economy to "protect the system" which still has lots of capacity to handle patients if needed, but also has an agenda to cut 11,000 healthcare workers out of the same system it's trying to protect, workers that could attend to the extra load if needed. It seems rather convenient to me that locking down the economy will help ensure those healthcare workers stay on the chopping block.
 
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Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
I wouldn't say it's "stupid". That's being a little harsh on the forum participant. I would say that because we don't know all the circumstances, it would be better to reserve judgement. But I would agree that generally speaking, there is a contradiction between how we're supposed to behave during the pandemic, and what is portrayed on the screens.
Hollywood's approach to resuming production has been widely publicized. Whenever there's a positive COVID-19 diagnosis, you read about shutting down productions. Now I wouldn't be surprised if some smaller independent productions are skirting the rules, but that's not what the industry wants to do.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
If we were going to talk about greed amid the pandemic, there are other candidates in the running, including giants like Amazon, where there's been a lot of talk about worker burn-out while the company rakes in record profits. There's also issues like the government here locking down the economy to "protect the system" which still has lots of capacity to handle patients if needed, but also has an agenda to cut 11,000 healthcare workers out of the same system it's trying to protect, workers that could attend to the extra load if they were needed.
In many parts of the U.S. we don't have the capacity, and that's a huge problem.

I agree that cutting healthcare workers at this time is outrageous. But then again, we have one political party in the U.S. who does not want to send money to the states to deal with their own flagging revenues because so many people are out of work. That means firing law enforcement, health officials and others who provide essential services. Remember healthcare in this country is already worse for regular people than in most developed countries because they cannot afford it.

My sister-in-law, for example, a widow with a handicapped son struggling to pay the bills, cannot get coverage for prescription drugs because she failed to get that coverage at age 65 when she signed up for Medicare. To get it now means paying thousands in back payments. How does that make sense?
 

Randall

J. Randall Murphy
In many parts of the U.S. we don't have the capacity, and that's a huge problem.

I agree that cutting healthcare workers at this time is outrageous. But then again, we have one political party in the U.S. who does not want to send money to the states to deal with their own flagging revenues because so many people are out of work. That means firing law enforcement, health officials and others who provide essential services. Remember healthcare in this country is already worse for regular people than in most developed countries because they cannot afford it.

My sister-in-law, for example, a widow with a handicapped son struggling to pay the bills, cannot get coverage for prescription drugs because she failed to get that coverage at age 65 when she signed up for Medicare. To get it now means paying thousands in back payments. How does that make sense?
You are absolutely right, and it's sad that there are those down there who look at universal healthcare as some kind of evil socialist manifesto. Not sure if you bothered reading the United Nations PDF I posted in the COVID-19 News thread, but one of their key recommendations for managing the pandemic and other healthcare concerns includes universal healthcare regardless of income. It just makes sense, and if run properly would be less expensive to manage than a web of for-profit companies each with its own pyramid of managers, and CEOs that are paid obscene amounts of money.
 
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Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
At best they might extend the Affordable Care Act in the U.S., which enriches private insurance companies. It’s a mess here. And people believe the fear-mongering about “Socialism” as an excuse to oppose it.
 

marduk

quelling chaos since 2352BC
Obviously the commercial doesn't reveal the circumstances under which it was filmed and the protections the production company and crew took to protect the workers. Hence no conclusion can be drawn. Thus the rant is just plain stupid. The steps the entertainment industry have taken are widely known, except possibly in the tiny bubble that poster lives in.

Indeed, many of the new TV shows filmed after these precautions were set up do show performers in the same room, near each other. If anyone tests positive, sets are shut down and measures taken to make sure others weren't impacted. "The Batman" set was closed down briefly for that reason a few months back.
A buddy I do martial arts with does a lot of the filming out here... and he’s pretty much totally shut down. He says everything is. Apparently the SAG and others have shuttered things, and it’s impossible to get insurance for shoots.

So I seriously doubt it was filmed during the pandemic.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
Even if it was, as I said, most studios who have resumed filming appear to be taking the proper steps to protect workers.

But when people have agendas, or live in a news bubble, they will post nonsense often without knowing it's nonsense. Thanks for the reality check.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
As the 2020-2021 TV season ends, you'll see that most shows ran fewer episodes as a result of pandemic shutdowns. They were more tightly focused on lead characters because of the constraints.

Schedules for this fall will be more or less normal.
 

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