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Bob Bigelow Bought MUFON ??


Decker

Administrator
Staff member
Last night I hosted Elaine Douglas and Ken Cherry, 2 fired State Directors for MUFON, to discuss funny goings on at MUFON Hdqts. Now this ... was MUFON sold to Real Estate Mogul Bob Bigelow?

Decker

January 15 (two weeks ago) an anonymous party sent Elaine Douglass a copy of
the contract signed Feb. 2009 between MUFON and Robert Bigelow. This marks
the entry of Bigelow into MUFON, which led to the Star Team effort. The
Committee to Reform MUFON has confirmed this is the actual contract, correct
in all details. The Committee feels all Members of MUFON should have the
opportunity to read the contract, and we have forwarded it to you in its
entirety below. Since we have studied the 5-page contract, permit us point
out selected highlights of the document and make a few comments about it.

This is a commercial contract in which MUFON, ("the seller"), sells to
Robert Bigelow, ("the buyer") certain "deliverables"-("the Product")-for a
total price of $672,000 payable in monthly installments of $56,000. What is
"the Product"?

"The Product" was MUFON
According to the contract, Bigelow is buying "the Seller's existing CMS
database. . .and all other data," as well as "field investigative services
and all information and material derived from those services, including but
not limited to. . .physical evidence. . .photographs, film, data from
detection devices. . .radar. . .satellite data, ground disturbance site
information. . .electronic information, interview transcripts, any
testimony, including recordings. . .as well as any other item that may be
recovered from prior, present and future field investigations [of] MUFON.
This is "the Product."

The contract assumes the Buyer will not return any of this material to MUFON
"unless there is a written agreement to return such property."

Regarding CMS, the contract states: "Buyer shall be given Administrator
Access to Seller's CMS in order that Buyer may have 'real-time' access to
such information. . ."

Apparently Bigelow's lawyers wrote this agreement and it was presented to
the MUFON Board as is. "Seller can only accept this Agreement on the exact
terms set forth," the contract says. No negotiating.


All the risks were MUFON's
The contract creates a relationship between MUFON and Bigelow in which, the
contract states, "Seller assumes all risks in furnishing the goods and
services ordered" and Bigelow, as well as his "affiliates" and "customers,"
are "held harmless against any and all losses, liabilities, claims," etc.
If there were any such losses, claims, etc., MUFON is financial responsible
for all of it and furthermore is required to "defend" Bigelow and his
"affiliates" and "customers" against any claims, losses, etc. All of that
notwithstanding, Bigelow retains "the option to control the defense and
related negotiations of any suit, proceeding . . .without expense or
liability. . ."

In other words, if anything went wrong, MUFON is 100 percent responsible;
MUFON would pay all claims, would pay to defend itself, AND would pay to
defend Bigelow and his "affiliates" and "customers." Yet, Bigelow may
"control" the entire handling of such a lawsuit or claim and exerting that
control will not generate any liability for Bigelow.

Can you believe this, MUFON?


MUFON better perform
The last thing the contract makes clear is MUFON is to walk straight, look
smart, and PERFORM in connection with this contract, by golly! Bigelow
requires "strict conformity of the Product with all dimensions and
specification . . .as deemed material. . .time is of the essence. The
Product shall be delivered . . .weekly written reports, in detail. .
.[including] a plan for the next 7 days. . .Monthly written reports and
financial statements. . [with] detailed exposition. . .Seller agrees to
properly safeguard and protect all evidence strictly in accord with
specifications. . .[there will be a] Performance Review" and "critical
decision dates" are associated with that. "MUFON shall submit an itemized
account of disbursements . . .[and Buyer] may, at its discretion. . .request
additional detail. . .Seller shall produce, furnish and deliver all Products
in strict compliance. . ." And on and on.

Curiously, the contract also stipulates that the "Buyer shall not, at any
time and is specifically precluded from providing. . .any advice,
consultation or management to Seller."


The Board of Directors signed
And so, in Feb. 2009 the MUFON Board of Directors signed poor sleepy little
MUFON up for the terms of this contract. And-is anyone surprised?-MUFON
fell down on the job, we hear. NOT because MUFON didn't do it's best, but in
all likelihood because MUFON did not have the in-depth experience to comply,
suddenly, with a huge influx of funds along with a demanding contract such
as this is. And it occurs to us to wonder if that wasn't Bigelow's the plan
all along-a plan to destabilize MUFON? That is just a theory.

In Sept. of 2009, eight months after the contract began, Bigelow swooped
down on MUFON demanding, "What did you do with the money!" Predictably, that
threw the MUFON Board into a panic, they collapsed before Bigelow
(figuratively), produced the project's and MUFON's books for HIM to audit,
and threw James Carrion under the bus, it is said. But that is another
story. When Bigelow stopped sending money to MUFON in November, MUFON had
received $334,000 of the promised $672,000.


They sold MUFON
Does anyone remember a few years ago a noted researcher was (wrongly)
accused of selling his UFO files to another organization? The researcher was
pilloried for that. But here we have the MUFON Board of Directors nakedly
SELLING the entire capability of our organization to a ruthless businessman
who had NO respect for MUFON's Mission of reporting UFO information to
Members and the public. The entirety of CMS was put at his disposal, and our
idealistic MUFON investigators were turned into employees. In order to live
up to the demanding terms of the contract, a draconic regime of secrecy and
conformity was imposed on Mufon-and it is still with us today.

As for the risks, whatever they may be, they all belonged to MUFON.
Bigelow's risks, and even the risks of his "affiliates" and "customers,"
were loaded onto the back of MUFON. Of course, it is our understanding the
Board of Directors has some kind of insurance policy which covers the 12
members of the Board, and we wonder if they ran this contract by their
insurers before signing it. In the meantime, the legions of investigators
who were to carry out Bigelow's bidding were left without insurance
coverage.


The real problem is lack of fund raising
The root of this problem is that MUFON's Board does no fund raising, and so
they are easy prey to exploitation by a Robert Bigelow. And what about
Bigelow's "affiliates"? According to James Carrion, in this recent column:

http://followthemagicthread.blogspot.com/2011/01/strange-bedfellows.html

it was Bigelow's undisclosed backers who actually put up the $672,000 to buy
MUFON, and only one person on MUFON's board knew who those backers were. In
other words, the MUFON Board signed a contract and sold MUFON to persons and
they did not know who those persons were-and they even assumed the risks for
those persons.


MUFON needs a democratically-elected Board
It is the view of The Committee to Reform MUFON that these actions by the
Board in no way resemble a safeguarding of the integrity of our organization
or its Mission. Accordingly, we feel the Board has forfeited its claim to
carry on running MUFON under MUFON's current corporate structure.

Sign the petition, MUFON needs to change
That is why, in the "Petition to the Board of Directors and the
International Director of MUFON," which our Committee circulated to all of
MUFON two days ago, we called for a scrapping of the current undemocratic
corporate structure of MUFON and its replacement with a new corporate
structure in which we would vote for the members of the Board of Directors.

The Committee to Reform MUFON
Marilyn Carlson
Dean DeHarpporte
Elaine Douglass
Bill McNeff
Marlee Spendlove

cont. next
 

Decker

Administrator
Staff member
cont.

PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF INFORMATION

This Purchase Agreement ("Agreement") dated this ______________________ day
of ________________, 200__, defines a contract between Mutual UFO Network
("MUFON"), with an office located at 155 E. Boardwalk Drive, Ste. 300, Fort
Collins, CO 80525, hereinafter referred to as "Seller" and Bigelow
Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, LLC, ("BAASS"), a Nevada Limited Liability
Company with an office located at 4640 S. Eastern Avenue, Las Vegas, Nevada
89119, hereinafter referred to as "Buyer".

1.0 This Agreement, all exhibits and other documents
incorporated herein by reference, whether or not attached hereto, constitute
the complete and exclusive statement of the Agreement between the parties
hereto. This Agreement supersedes any previous understanding or agreement
between Seller and Buyer (oral or written) with respect to the subject
matter hereof.

2.0 Engagement of Services: Buyer is engaging Seller to:

a. Purchase field investigation services
that provide diversified information covering the topic of aerial
phenomenology and any spacecraft, mobile objects, or events that could be
considered anomalous.
b. Provide to Buyer services including the
Seller's existing CMS database in Read Only format and all other data.
c. Purchase from Seller field
investigation services and all information and material derived from those
services, including, but not limited to: Physical evidence, signature
information from detection devices (including third-party witness
photographs, film, data from detection devices, ground or air-derived radar
data from FAA or other sources, and satellite data), ground disturbance site
information and evidence including photographs and other material including
effects on humans, foliage, trees, soil, fauna and insects, photographs of
casts of footprints, film, any other photographs, electronic information,
interview transcripts, any testimony, including recordings (audio, video,
stenographic, etc.) of first-hand accounts and observations, as well as any
other item that may be recovered from prior, present, and future field
investigations, submitted by MUFON which shall be hereinafter referred to as
the "Product " Buyer is only obligated to return original case files, photos
and audio recordings to Seller providing there is a written agreement to
return such property belonging to Seller or other established ownerships.
Such agreements shall be executed on a case by case basis. Seller agrees to
provide the labor, resources and equipment necessary to deliver the Products
to Buyer upon the scheduled and terms and described within this Agreement.
Strict conformity of the Product with all dimensions and specifications
described in this Agreement and/or any Exhibit or attachment shall be deemed
a material term of this Agreement.

3.0 Warranty of Performance. Buyer agrees to Five Thousand US
Dollars ($5,000.00) per month to be spent from the Fifty Six Thousand US
Dollar ($56,000) monthly payment stipulated in paragraph 8 below for a
special Rewards Program. Seller intends to disburse Five Thousand US
Dollars ($5,000.00) per month according to the following formula in order to
fund a Rewards program that encourages and enhances the quantity and quality
of the information Product. Buyer agrees to accept the following formula
for the disbursement of such funds. Seller warrants that it shall follow
this disbursement formula throughout the term of this Agreement. Seller's
rewards disbursement formula is as follows:
a. One monthly prize for the dispatcher
accumulating the most performance points as described by the MUFON SIP
Project Incentives schedule attached as Exhibit A. This prize will be
$500.00.
b. There will be monthly prizes for the
first place and second place State Coordinators as described by monthly
accumulation of performance points. First prize will be $750 and second
prize will be $500.
c. There will be monthly prizes for the
first, second and third place field investigators based on monthly
accumulation of performance points. First prize will be $1,500, second
prize will be $1,000 and third prize will be $750.

4.0 Scope of the Agreement. This Agreement shall not be
interpreted as having any characteristics or force as a partnership
agreement of any kind between the parties hereto. Buyer shall not at any
time and is specifically precluded from providing during the term of this
Agreement any advice, consultation or management to Seller.

5.0 Term. The term of this Agreement shall be one year from
the date of execution subject to the terms and conditions of Paragraph 6.0
below. Buyer shall have an option to renew this Agreement at the conclusion
of each one-year period. Buyer shall notify Seller of its intent to
exercise this option in writing five (5) days prior to the expiration of the
Agreement subject to Paragraph 5.0 below. Seller can terminate this
agreement at any time upon Fifteen (15) days written notice to Buyer
providing Seller refunds to Buyer a prorated amount of monies previously
distributed from Buyer to Seller for the remaining unused time in that
particular month. Under no circumstances shall such notice be permitted to
be delivered when insufficient time is available to allow said notice to
expire within the current month of delivery.
6.0 Product Delivery: The Parties understand and agree that
time is of the essence. The Product shall be delivered in the following
manner:
a. Buyer shall be given Administrator
Access to Seller's CMS in order that Buyer may have "real-time" access to
such information within 24 hours of the execution of this Agreement.
b. Weekly written reports shall be
delivered by Seller to Buyer via facsimile by 5:00 pm PDT on the Friday of
each week throughout the term of this Agreement to a destination facsimile
number given to Seller in writing by Buyer. The Weekly report shall set
forth in detail all field investigation activities encompassing all
applicable items set forth in Paragraph 2.0 above occurring for the previous
seven-day period.
c. The Weekly report shall also set forth
the investigation plan for the next seven days for each active case
investigated.
d. Monthly written reports and monthly
financial statements shall be delivered via FedEx to Buyer by the tenth
(10th) day of each calendar month following execution of this Agreement.
Seller shall deliver two copies each of the written and financial statements
to Buyer at 4640 S. Eastern Avenue, Las Vegas, NV 89119 or such other
address as may be directed in writing by Buyer. The monthly written report
shall include an executive summary and a detailed exposition of all MUFON
activities of the previous month as they pertain to this Agreement. It shall
also set forth all field investigation activities encompassing all
applicable items set forth in Paragraph 2.0 above occurring for the month
being reported. The monthly financial statement shall encompass all items
set forth in Paragraph 8.0 below.
e. All other information and evidence as
described in Paragraph 2 shall be delivered via FedEx to Buyer at 4640 S.
Eastern Avenue, Las Vegas, NV 89119, or such other address as may be
directed in writing by Buyer. Seller agrees to properly safeguard and
protect all evidence strictly in accord with the specifications regarding
protection of the field investigation site, establishing chain of custody,
and preservation of evidence prior to shipping as required by Buyer.
7.0 Seller Product and Performance Review: Buyer shall review
the quality and quantity of the Product delivered through approximately the
first four to five months of the term of this Agreement ("The Performance
Review"). The Performance Review shall take place during the second half
of June, 2009 and will require Buyer to determine three possible actions
based upon Seller's performance. Those actions are:

a. Immediate termination effective June
30, 2009, of the contract for Seller's failure to provide the quality and
quantity of information to the satisfaction of Buyer.
b. Continuation of the Agreement under the
same terms and conditions as agreed.
c. Continuation of the Agreement with a
merit-based increase in price for the Product.

In the event continuation of the Agreement is chosen, a
second Performance Review shall be conducted during the second half of
October, 2009. The criteria for the second Performance Review and any
subsequent Performance Review shall be a, b, and c above. The critical
decision date for the June, 2009 Performance Review shall be June 26, 2009,
and the critical decision date for the October, 2009 Performance Review
shall be October 27, 2009 with the termination date, if applicable, to be
October 31, 2009.
8.0 Price and Payment: Subject to Paragraph 6.0 above, the
total fixed price payable to Seller for the goods and services of this
Agreement is Six Hundred Seventy-two Thousand US Dollars ($672,000US)
payable in twelve monthly installments of Fifty-six Thousand US Dollars
($56,000US). The total fixed price paid by Buyer to Seller shall be for the
Product as described in Paragraph 2.0 above and deliverables as described in
Paragraph 5.0 above. Seller agrees to be responsible for and pay all sales
tax, use tax, and all contributions for health insurance, social security
charges, employment taxes, customs duties, if any, and any and all other
surcharges, fees, worker's compensation premiums or other labor related
taxes, fees or premiums arising in connection with the performance of the
scope of work of this contract. This is a "Turn-key" price Agreement.
Seller will not and shall not seek to pass-along any additional costs that
it may incur in connection with any activity that it may require in order to
produce or deliver the Product as set forth in Paragraph 2 or deliverables
as defined in Paragraph 5. In the event Buyer is found to be liable for any
of the costs described above, Seller shall indemnify Buyer to the full
extent as set forth in paragraph 10.0 below.
9.0 Financial Statements. As a condition of this contract,
MUFON shall submit an itemized account of disbursements, on an approved
BAASS format, on a monthly basis, no later that the 10th of each month.
Further, BAASS may, at its discretion, request and receive within 10 days
additional detailed information relative to any allocation or expenditure of
monies paid to MUFON.
This supporting information may include (but not be limited
to) invoices, receipts, statements, contracts, time/payroll reports,
independent contractor submissions, and summarizing schedules, which shall
allow easy correlation from the detail to the total expenditures.
10.0 Terms: The first prorated payment shall be made to Seller
within three business days after complete execution of this Agreement. Each
month thereafter payment shall be made on or before the fifth day of each
month.
11.0 Modifications: This Agreement may only be modified by a
written instrument, signed by both parties. Such a written instrument is
only valid if signed by Robert T. Bigelow and identifies specifically the
sections of this Agreement affected along with the specific changes caused
by signing the written instrument.
12.0 Non-Waiver: Failure of Buyer to insist on any term of this
Agreement shall not release Seller from any warranties or obligations under
this Agreement and shall not be deemed a waiver of any right of Buyer to
insist upon strict performance hereunder of any of its right and/or
remedies.
13.0 Hold Harmless: Seller assumes all risks in furnishing the
goods and services ordered hereunder and shall indemnify, defend and hold
harmless Buyer or any affiliates from and against any and all such claims,
debts, demands, judgments, awards, losses, liabilities, interest, attorneys
fees, costs and expenses arising out of any failure of Seller to perform any
of the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
14.0 Indemnity Against Patent Infringement:

A. Seller shall indemnify, hold harmless, and defend, at Seller's
expense, Buyer and/or Buyer's customers against any and all losses, damages,
liabilities, claims, settlements, and judgments resulting from an allegation
of infringement or misappropriation of an intellectual property right
(whether or not successful), as well as attorney's fees, expert's fees,
consultant's fees, court costs, and related expenses incurred by Buyer
and/or Buyer's customers in defending such an action. Seller shall provide
to Buyer a suitable substitute product with Buyer's written approval and at
Seller's expense if an injunction issues covering the subject matter of this
Agreement. This indemnity shall not apply to products that are made to a
specific and detailed design furnished by Buyer.

B. Seller shall notify Buyer in writing of any claim of infringement or
misappropriation related to the subject matter of this Agreement immediately
upon Seller's receipt of notification of such claim(s). Buyer shall have
the option to control the defense and related negotiations of any suit,
proceeding, or action of infringement or misappropriation against Buyer
without expense or liability pursuant to the terms of this Agreement.

15.0 Intellectual Property Rights. Intellectual property rights
and the nature of ownership of physical materials and the particular
permissions surrounding destructive testing shall be determined on a case by
case basis through written permission from MUFON when and where such
materials are offered to Buyer. Seller shall notify Buyer in writing of any
claim of infringement or misappropriation of Intellectual Property
immediately upon Seller's receipt of notification of such claim(s). Buyer
shall have the option to control the defense and related negotiations of any
suit, proceeding, or action of infringement or misappropriation against
Buyer without expense or liability pursuant to the terms of this Agreement.

16.0 Compliance: Seller shall produce, furnish and deliver all
Products to be provided in strict compliance with any and all terms of this
Agreement.

17.0 Warranty: Exhibit A attached to this Agreement shall specify
the term for any additional warranties by Seller pertaining to all
deliverables subject to this Agreement.
18.0 Applicable Law and Jurisdiction: The parties agree 1) to
personal jurisdiction in the State of Nevada; 2) the laws of the State of
Nevada shall govern the validity, performance and enforcement of the terms
and conditions of this Agreement, and; 3) any proceedings with respect to
the performance or enforcement of this Agreement shall be brought in a court
of competent jurisdiction in the State of Nevada.
19.0 Severability: If any portion of this Agreement is held
invalid, the Parties agree that such invalidity shall not affect the
validity of the remaining portions of this Agreement, unless applying the
remaining portions would frustrate the purpose of this Agreement.
20.0 Acceptance: Seller can only accept this Agreement on the
exact terms set forth. The Seller can only make acceptance by executing
this Agreement and initialing all attached exhibits within seven (7)
calendar days of the Agreement date.
21.0 Delegation of Performance: No delegation of performance by
Seller is permitted unless the delegation is approved in a writing
specifically identifying the authorization to delegate and signed by an
executive of Buyer.

MUTUAL UFO NETWORK BIGELOW AEROSPACE ADVANCED SPACE STUDIES,
LLC

Authorized Signature Authorized Signature
Robert T. Bigelow
Printed Name Printed Name
Operating Manager
Title Title
_______/_______/_______ _______/_______/_______
Date Date
 

ArchieBedford

Partly experienced
Don - why the hell did the MUFON Board sign up to this in the first place? It looks insane. You say they agreed to this 2 years ago, in February 2009? Were you involved in this decision in any way?

On another point, I understand members of MUFON are volunteers. Volunteers don't have contracts of employment, so can walk any time they want. Right?
 

Decker

Administrator
Staff member
Don - why the hell did the MUFON Board sign up to this in the first place? It looks insane. You say they agreed to this 2 years ago, in February 2009? Were you involved in this decision in any way?

On another point, I understand members of MUFON are volunteers. Volunteers don't have contracts of employment, so can walk any time they want. Right?
Archie, you ask Me why MUFON signed this? How the hell would I know? I am just reporting this. I just received a copy of the contract from Elaine Douglas and placed it here. Was I involved in this? I am sorry to be as blunt as I am about to be but that is a dumb ass question! Hell no. I have had no involvement with MUFON since about 1989. If you listen to the show with Ken Cherry and Elaine Douglas that I just did many of your questions would be answered. I am just reporting what I have been told.

Decker
 

dyingsun

Paranormal Adept
Thanks for reporting this, Don. Holy friggin' crap if true, implications all over the place.First the Jerusalem video and now this, strange week indeed....
 

Aardvark

Paranormal Maven
Don,

Is there any significant reason to believe that the above contract was actually signed "as is" by both the Buyer and Seller and truly became the final contract for the alleged MUFON Sellout? I know the contract says that it must be accepted as written but that doesn't mean much until the signitures are affixed.

You are doing a great job. Thanks.....
 

pininmefin

Skilled Investigator
this one was building since the MUFON SIPP project was derailed . essentialy they are close to the truth but only the people involved with the sipp project know the whole truth.and then only some of them........
 

Infolad1

Purveyor of Hidden Things
Just finished reading James Carrion's blog. Looks like he's spot on.

This is all just a continuation of a modus operandi discussed in books such as "On the Trail of the Saucer Spies" and"Messengers of Deception", and shows like "Dark Matters". Anytime people organize to record and discuss these events, you can always expect the various alphabet soup organizations to not be very far behind, if not in the front row.

And they're just a tad bit better funded than we are :)
 

Ron Collins

Curiously Confused
Why does it always have to be a government intelligence agency? Gimme a break. MUFON screwed itself and continues to find new and interesting ways to keep that tradition going. Carrion was just as much a part of the current downward spiral as old crazy uncle Cliff and his ilk. When that organization finally impacts Carrion, Clift, and most of the upper echelon will probably blame each other first and the the ubiquitous "Intelligence Agencies" next.

As for the other party...You know what, I applaud Bigelow. If I had a few Billion lying around I wouldn't be any different. I would like to think that I would share what evidence I discovered but I might just as well say, " Hey I paid for it, I don't owe anyone anything."

Truth is, I am glad something is finally being done with the data. The thing that should really chap everyones ass is that it could and should have been so different. Short sightedness and petty squabbling doomed it. But, you gotta agree MUFON should have been so much better than this. What a shame.
 

dyingsun

Paranormal Adept
I'm still waiting on them sueing the fuck out of Michael Cohen, copying posted 'experiences' 'verbatim and passing them off as news...fuck you , Sir.
 

pininmefin

Skilled Investigator
a number of people (including tim good, for what it's worth) told me over the past couple of years they were absolutely certain that carrion was a spook, and had strong connections to the cia. If true, this sorry mess might be even more complicated than it looks.
bingo!!!!!!!!!!!! Ding!! Ding!!!.........................
 

blowfish

Whittingham
It all seems to be a sad state of affairs and start fresh as reborn institution with strong rules for its investigators to follow maybe drawn up by a detective with many years of experience.:)

Change the name maybe :)
 

Sean Elifritz

Administrator
A number of people (including Tim Good, for what it's worth) told me over the past couple of years they were absolutely certain that Carrion was a spook, and had strong connections to the CIA. If true, this sorry mess might be even more complicated than it looks.
Lol, if they're that paranoid and silly no wonder the organization is going down the toilet.
 

Simone_m

Skilled Investigator
I always found James Carrion to be a very smart skeptical guy, but this stuff about "the shadowy world of spies and counter spies" < see his blog) sounds like his mind has gone the way of those in my StarTrek Nextgen vid clip, in another thread here. One time, 'someone' wanted me to send them a pic of me holding up my local newspaper showing date year and my location, in the process of verifying I guess, whether or not I am a shadowy agent type. I live on disability with my two cats for Ch****s sake, and the only place I wormily skulk over to, is my Dollar General store, for those dirt cheap bathroom items.
Carrion was in the Army and did SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) work.
I don't know if this would help this conversation (he he) but I remember a very long time ago, where I used (as in made up) the convenience of spooky agent intervention to help me out because (I can't remember why exactly > I never mailed an item cuz I changed my mind (so the mib intercepted it) I know this is -horrible- for the truth-progress agenda, but it was a very long time ago, when I was far more immature than I am now.
 

Ron Collins

Curiously Confused
I always found James Carrion to be a very smart skeptical guy, but this stuff about "the shadowy world of spies and counter spies" < see his blog) sounds like his mind has gone the way of those in my StarTrek Nextgen vid clip, in another thread here. One time, 'someone' wanted me to send them a pic of me holding up my local newspaper showing date year and my location, in the process of verifying I guess, whether or not I am a shadowy agent type. I live on disability with my two cats for Ch****s sake, and the only place I wormily skulk over to, is my Dollar General store, for those dirt cheap bathroom items.
Carrion was in the Army and did SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) work.
I don't know if this would help this conversation (he he) but I remember a very long time ago, where I used (as in made up) the convenience of spooky agent intervention to help me out because (I can't remember why exactly > I never mailed an item cuz I changed my mind (so the mib intercepted it) I know this is -horrible- for the truth-progress agenda, but it was a very long time ago, when I was far more immature than I am now.
Huh? I am so confused.
 

Decker

Administrator
Staff member
Well Gang, here is a thought for you (when we are discussing if MUFON has been infiltrated.)


"Never attribute to malice ... that which can be explained by pure dumb-ass stupidity and small minded pettiness."

There, by God I got that off my chest. Now I am going to disappear for awhile and join in the annual rite of Superbowl madness!!!!!!

GO STEELERS!!

Decker
 

Simone_m

Skilled Investigator
OHhhhhhhhNO NO, ***GO PACKERS***

Hey dare Ya hey!?


I need some advice before I become a football widow here shortly, along with --only-- the janitor and the security nightwatchman ambling about a big empty lonesome Paracast.
I recently recieved a near-$125.00 electric bill for my tiny little HUD apartment. Q: Should I not pay it, but tell them I DID pay it, but government agents who surveil me because of my ufo interest intercepted it? (It worked for me in ufo dum........)
 

pininmefin

Skilled Investigator
c'mon decker nicap was bung-holed by the CIA why not MUFON? the best way to keep a secret it just put right out in front of every one.and the best part is the CMS data based is bieng investigated for the goverment for free!!!!!
 



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