Forum Super Hero
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I'd be delighted if the entire issue were clear-cut, one way or the other.Rick Deckard said:
I signed up to access the site, and learn that you have to pay extra for access to certain messages. I'm not too happy about such things. I think these things should be free.Rick Deckard said:Well, there are a lot of contradictions and inconsistencies in the story and a whole lot of other stuff that just don't add up.
The thread I posted is now closed, but the very last entry (on page 248) does have several links to further threads summing up all the problems with the story so far...
...and at the end of the day it is a good story and my philosophy has always been that everything is possible. It's just a pity that you have to take this entire story on faith. A bit like a religion, don't you think?
That really helps everybody to be informed on the subjectRick Deckard said:I agree - I quit ATS a couple of years ago. You wouldn't want to get involved with some of the regulars on there - some of the moderators are biased too.
Actually, it looks like the threads I was referring to have been locked-down. I've no idea why.
Well, I suppose people have to make a living, but this is a little bit much. And there are links to other threads that expand the joy.Rick Deckard said:Well, I guess you'll just have to read all 248 pages of the original thread I posted ;D
Pace yourself - do 60 pages a day
I think BIG contributors to ATS earn 'points' - you can access certain areas when you've amassed enough points.
Another thing I don't like about ATS is that everything you post becomes their 'property' - me thinks a book is on the cards...
OK, I have actually read a reasonable amount of material today, in part by just printing out pages and taking them to the bedroom, etc.Rick Deckard said:It must be 6 months since I last read any of that thread - my (rather vague) recollection of the events is that the source materials being 'released' suddenly changed in their style and structure as though someone else had 'taken over' the telling of the story.
Also, a supposed sketch/blueprint of some alien technology was shown to consist of symbols traced from a drawing stencil available in the shops.
Also, Bill Ryan (or someone close to the 'source') was criticised for coming to the ATS forum to discuss the topic but then disappearing when serious questions were being asked.
There was also much made of the 'Serpo book' rumoured to be in the works - a lot of people jumping to the conclusion that this 'hoax' was just the starting point for a new book.
In the end, I've no idea how much of this 'negativity' has been pushed by the nay-sayers and 'career' de-bunkers, so I remain firmly 'on the fence'.
It does remind me of the John Titor saga though - a great story that makes you think but has none or very little solid evidence to support it.
I think that Bill and Kerry are not endorsing the claims of anybody at their site. They are merely making the site available so that others may share information with us. If a hoax is identified and subsequently removed from their site then that would give them even greater credence.TerraX said:I listened to the first part of the interview and I must say that Bill Ryan, to me seems like a grounded person and not the typical person that would pull a hoax. Kerry Cassidy also sends out signals of a strong-minded individual. I guess they are fully aware that if Mr. X's story turns out to be a hoax there reputations will be severely damaged.
Mr X's requirement for anonymity is dubious. Only one person could be identified by the powers that be as being the holder of the job he claims to have done.TerraX said:While I didn't get in to the Serpo story when it was very actual I did read an interview on the 'camelot.org' site. I must say there are several items which are very recognisable in relation to ufo folklore with no real additional information to expand on the subject(s). This more or less makes me wonder if Mr. X simply read all that is out there and gave it his personal 'touch' in a way by "confirming" it with his testimony. I also noticed that Mr. X memory was lacking in some areas.
However I should read more concerning the claims to be able to make a better judgement of the claims.