ATECH ( Alien Technology ) May Explain Paranormal Phenomena

[Randall]

In the Skinwalker Ranch episode of the Paracast we heard accounts of various kinds of paranormal phenomena all tied together within the vicinity of a hotspot known as the Skinwalker Ranch. As with most paranormal phenomena, assuming that it is genuine, it could be explained using a combination of adequate technology and knowledge, and if the phenomena is beyond our ability, then the only remaining explanation is something alien. Because we've run across this concept before, I thought that I'd open up a new thread to explore the idea more fully. I know there is a resistance to this interpretation by people who are invested in a belief in cryptozoological, ghosts, occult or traditional explanations. And I know they think the same about me and my focus on ufology, but there is a difference. I've also had a number of other experiences before I ever came to think that ATECH ( alien technology ) was the most likely explanation for genuine paranormal phenomena. Only after much reflection of what seems the most logical explanation have I taken on this view. What's more, it's so prevalent that it implies a widespread covert monitoring operation. This is the place to post any counterpoints, observations and theories that relate to the idea that ATECH may be responsible for a large portion of unexplained paranormal events.

Equipment Malfunctions:

The Skinwalker Ranch episode also reminded me of several exchanges on another thread related to Chris' SLV project. It was suggested that the entities or whatever is behind the phenomena are so far beyond our grasp that they'll only be captured on video if they allow it to happen. I commented that I wouldn't be surprised if the SLV project runs into unexplained technical difficulties or if Chris had already experienced some weird stuff, and his anecdote on the $23,000 Panasonic camera failing to initialize during the one segment containing what he perceived to have been a shadow being is a perfect example. UFOs are associated with automobile malfunctions, but why limit that ability just to car radios and ignitions? An EM device capable of interfering with modern electronic technology could affect all kinds of other things as well.

BTW, have you ever noticed that little disclaimer on your digital electronic products, "Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation." Curious isn't it?

Cloaking Technology:

The Skinwalker Ranch episode also included a description of things that have the ability to morph from one type of thing to another. This could be a illusion made possible by some sort of advanced camouflage, like a cloaking suit. Notice how nicely the concept of a cloaking suit dovetails with the idea of the "skinwalker" ( being able to slip into a skin that looks like whatever you want to appear to be ). All that is needed beforehand is some kind of sample to make the pattern, and this fits the mythology as well. Cloaking technology also includes invisibility, which would enable the wearer to simulate the movement of objects by some unseen force ( such as a ghost ).

Other Kinds of Technology:

There are several other kinds of technology that may explain strange noises, the movement of heavy objects, strange lights, apparitions, weird animals and other things, but I'd like to see comments from other participants on how they think such things may or may not work. Also what insights might we gain from assuming this theory is true?

 

[Trajanus]

Holograms could play a key role in many apparitions.

 

[Jeff Crowell]

I've heard a different catch phrase for ATech.....ET-tech, which I'm more partial to, myself. (I know, 0 contribution to the topic, really.)

 

[Jeff Crowell]

Okay, having read through your points, UFOlogy, I do have some comments that may be considered, broadly, as contributions. In my study of ghosts and haunting phenomenon I've acknowledged what I call the 3 to 5 percent rule, which is typically mirrored in UFO research. The rule basically states that out of 100 reports of paranormal phenomena, 3 to 5 of them cannot be attributed to; mis-interpreted (or exaggeration of) natural occurrences; hallucinations; falsification, fabrication, or hoaxing. These 3 to 5 (or 3 to 5 percent) events may still not be genuinely paranormal; perhaps we simply do not have enough (normal) information to debunk them, but normally it's assumed that somewhere within this 3 to 5 percent margin something truly paranormal can be found.

With your proposal of ET-tech thrown into the mix, this could whittle down that 3 to 5 percent even further. ET-tech wouldn't eliminate the idea of something paranormal remaining within that 3 to 5 percent but it bars further consideration. Even my wife, in a few recent investigations, is swaying away from some of our evidence stemming from ghosts of dead humans into some contact with alien or off-world intelligence.

Such is a gray-area for me. Our first MUFON meeting we went to in July degraded into a talk of spirit communication and spiritualism as it became clear the members at the meeting were more interested in merging UFO and haunting phenomenon. Myself, I'd like to remain a bit more scientific than that but I'm off-topic. If what we're experiencing within that 3 to 5 percent realm is actually caused by ET-tech it'll open up even more questions and keep some the same, such as sourcing and rationality behind the behaviors we're seeing.

 

[Randall]

Holograms could play a key role in many apparitions.

Absolutely, holographic technology could also play a key role in cloaking / camouflage technology and the appearance of cigarette smoking wolfmen ( as Chris mentioned in the Skinwalker episode ).

 

[Randall]

Okay, having read through your points, UFOlogy, I do have some comments that may be considered, broadly, as contributions. In my study of ghosts and haunting phenomenon I've acknowledged what I call the 3 to 5 percent rule, which is typically mirrored in UFO research. The rule basically states that out of 100 reports of paranormal phenomena, 3 to 5 of them cannot be attributed to; mis-interpreted (or exaggeration of) natural occurrences; hallucinations; falsification, fabrication, or hoaxing. These 3 to 5 (or 3 to 5 percent) events may still not be genuinely paranormal; perhaps we simply do not have enough (normal) information to debunk them, but normally it's assumed that somewhere within this 3 to 5 percent margin something truly paranormal can be found.

With your proposal of ET-tech thrown into the mix, this could whittle down that 3 to 5 percent even further. ET-tech wouldn't eliminate the idea of something paranormal remaining within that 3 to 5 percent but it bars further consideration. Even my wife, in a few recent investigations, is swaying away from some of our evidence stemming from ghosts of dead humans into some contact with alien or off-world intelligence.

Such is a gray-area for me. Our first MUFON meeting we went to in July degraded into a talk of spirit communication and spiritualism as it became clear the members at the meeting were more interested in merging UFO and haunting phenomenon. Myself, I'd like to remain a bit more scientific than that but I'm off-topic. If what we're experiencing within that 3 to 5 percent realm is actually caused by ET-tech it'll open up even more questions and keep some the same, such as sourcing and rationality behind the behaviors we're seeing.

I think you're onto some good points that deserve some further attention. Do you consider yourself to be a specialist in this area? If so, this could become quite interesting. My initial response is that the parallel percentage of unexplained cases only adds weight to the theory that both phenomena ( ATECH and Paranormal Phenomena ) stem from the same cause ( an alien presence on Earth ). You however are holding onto the view that some ghosts may still represent the disembodied consciousness of people whose bodies have stopped working. I believe that it is possible for such a thing to occur, but that because the mechanism that would make it possible would require invoking constructs so far beyond current scientific understanding by comparison to alien involvement, alien involvement seems to be to be far more likely. Perhaps we can get into that down the road a bit too, but for now, my question would be, what aspects of the paranormal, ghosts or other phenomena you have studied do you feel cannot be explained by ATECH? Perhaps it may be something I've yet to consider.

 

[Jeff Crowell]

I think you're onto some good points that deserve some further attention. Do you consider yourself to be a specialist in this area? If so, this could become quite interesting. My initial response is that the parallel percentage of unexplained cases only adds weight to the theory that both phenomena ( ATECH and Paranormal Phenomena ) stem from the same cause ( an alien presence on Earth ). You however are holding onto the view that some ghosts may still represent the disembodied consciousness of people whose bodies have stopped working. I believe that it is possible for such a thing to occur, but that because the mechanism that would make it possible would require invoking constructs so far beyond current scientific understanding by comparison to alien involvement, alien involvement seems to be to be far more likely. Perhaps we can get into that down the road a bit too, but for now, my question would be, what aspects of the paranormal, ghosts or other phenomena you have studied do you feel cannot be explained by ATECH? Perhaps it may be something I've yet to consider.

I certainly don't consider myself a specialist,which would imply I know what I'm doing, LOL!, but I have my opinion about it. Five years of looking into the ghost and haunting phenomenon I can tell you that I don't believe in the survival of consciousness, theory of parapsychology. In my years of investigations I've not seen evidence of this type of existence, i.e. direct communication with what I would consider the soul/spirit/consciousness of a deceased human being. I'm far more partial to the multi-universal bleed-over entity (what some people would mistakenly call ultra-dimensional). I know it's just theory but string theory implies many universes and if one of those can kiss our own we may be seeing the effects in paranormal activity of all types. My own personal experiences point away from consciousness survival into something a bit more.....odd, but that oddity explanation could prove to be the universal theory between such things as ghosts and UFO's. I can also say this; I don't believe we have the technology to discover what's really behind these phenomenon and we may not for several generations, but that's not to say we shouldn't keep trying and maybe even discovering patterns within such events.

You bring up good points about ET-tech being causes for paranormal occurrences; invisibility/stealth technology or frequency-oriented communication, and such things could be the causes behind poltergeist and EVP events but as with all things within haunting research such events are frustratingly sporadic and in-congruent. If an alien species is behind such phenomenon either their technology is unreliable, they're not sure if they're really communicating with another species (us), or they're just messing with us (trickster).

 

[Goggs Mackay]

I am a little unsure but are you contending that most paranormal phenomena might be caused by advanced alientech or just the skinwalker ranch stuff?

For instance when I was around 12 I saw what can only be called an upper or full-body apparation. There was another witness. The location and time and shortness of duration make me think it more likely it is anything other than alientech. But only in that instance.

Smoking dogmen to me suggest an intelligence with such an intimate knowledge of humans to be either ET observing us for millennia or a trickster type deal. It almost makes me think of paranormal humour, the smoking dogman?

 

[Randall]

I certainly don't consider myself a specialist,which would imply I know what I'm doing, LOL!, but I have my opinion about it. Five years of looking into the ghost and haunting phenomenon I can tell you that I don't believe in the survival of consciousness, theory of parapsychology. In my years of investigations I've not seen evidence of this type of existence, i.e. direct communication with what I would consider the soul/spirit/consciousness of a deceased human being. I'm far more partial to the multi-universal bleed-over entity (what some people would mistakenly call ultra-dimensional). I know it's just theory but string theory implies many universes and if one of those can kiss our own we may be seeing the effects in paranormal activity of all types. My own personal experiences point away from consciousness survival into something a bit more.....odd, but that oddity explanation could prove to be the universal theory between such things as ghosts and UFO's. I can also say this; I don't believe we have the technology to discover what's really behind these phenomenon and we may not for several generations, but that's not to say we shouldn't keep trying and maybe even discovering patterns within such events.

You bring up good points about ET-tech being causes for paranormal occurrences; invisibility/stealth technology or frequency-oriented communication, and such things could be the causes behind poltergeist and EVP events but as with all things within haunting research such events are frustratingly sporadic and in-congruent. If an alien species is behind such phenomenon either their technology is unreliable, they're not sure if they're really communicating with another species (us), or they're just messing with us (trickster).

Interesting that you aren't a believer in the traditional explanations for appararitions and ghosts, proposing instead a "multi-universal bleed over". I'm also impressed that you don't call it "multi-dimensional". It shows you are more attune to the nuances, and in my view although they may seem small, they are very important for internal coherency. For me the problem with the multiverse theory is that although it may be possible, it presents a level of complexity that is far more amplified than alien visitation from within this universe, making it less likely to be the case than something that by comparison, we've established with as much certainty as is possible without material evidence to be true. So the question becomes the same, what aspects of the paranormal, ghostsor other phenomena cannot be explained by ATECH?

You mention that the sporadic nature of paranormal phenomena implies that ATECH is unreliable or unproven or that it is being used in a manner to intentionally deceive us. Given their performance characteristics, UFOs are so far advanced from terrestrial engineering, I doubt that ACOM ( alien communications ) technology would be unreliable. This leaves us with the idea that they are "messing with us" and I gravitate toward that analysis. UFOs are not simply evasive. They have the capability to not be seen, if not by simply outperforming our aircraft to the point of never coming into visual contact with them if they so choose. However rather than doing that, they tend to make themselves observable and then become evasive when approached as if to demonstrate that they are here, but beyond our grasp. Similarly the whole poltergeist / apparition phenomena always remains tauntingly out of reach. But what purpose does interacting with us in this manner serve? Are they like benevolent parents who are showing us kids how it is possible to ride without training wheels if we just keep trying? Or is it something more akin to a dispassionate study of our behavior when faced with bizarre stimuli?

 

[Randall]

I am a little unsure but are you contending that most paranormal phenomena might be caused by advanced alientech or just the skinwalker ranch stuff?

For instance when I was around 12 I saw what can only be called an upper or full-body apparation. There was another witness. The location and time and shortness of duration make me think it more likely it is anything other than alientech. But only in that instance.

Smoking dogmen to me suggest an intelligence with such an intimate knowledge of humans to be either ET observing us for millennia or a trickster type deal. It almost makes me think of paranormal humour, the smoking dogman?

Virtually all paranormal phenomena that has no natural or manmade explanation could be explained by ATECH. Apparitions, regardless of where they may appear, could be produced by any one or a combination of advanced cloaking, holographic, or brain influencing technology. Even we've got the rudiments of such technology now. Imagine a super-tech race 10,000 years ahead of us.

 

[mike]

The simplest way to do any of this is to put the required images directly into the brain.

Looking around the room now you observe objects, hacking that system to insert other elements seems the simplest

They have been studying how a functional magnetic resonance machine (FMRI) can ‘induce’ knowledge in someone through their visual cortex by sending signals that change their brain activity pattern.

Learning skills like characters on The Matrix set to become a reality, say scientists | Mail Online

Audio is already being researched

That's why the U.S. Army has just awarded a $4 million contract to begin developing "thought helmets" that would harness silent brain waves for secure communication among troops. Ultimately, the Army hopes the project will "lead to direct mental control of military systems by thought alone."
If this sounds insane, it would have been as recently as a few years ago. But improvements in computing power and a better understanding of how the brain works have scientists busy hunting for the distinctive neural fingerprints that flash through a brain when a person is talking to himself. The Army's initial goal is to capture those brain waves with incredibly sophisticated software that then translates the waves into audible radio messages for other troops in the field.


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Final BCI/BMI: direct control over the activities of all individual neurons by means of nanorobots. Arbitrary read/write access to the whole brain.

Brain Computer Interface - Future

I cant find the link, but ive read one US army general also talking about "write access" to the brain via this technology.

The brain is just a machine, suffiently advanced technology should be able to insert data into it

 

[Jeff Crowell]

Astounding information, Mike, and it continues along the path that hyper-advanced ET-tech may be more akin to psychological or neurobiological in nature rather than physics and technological in nature. Thanks for the links.....and the nightmares. LOL!

Not that I give the topic my credence myself but this could open up some new possibilities to the abduction phenomenon and the links to altered reality reported by witnesses and victims of such.

 

[Wade]

Good info mike. Now we established it COULD be done, we should ponder WHY.

 

[mike]

Some more info

• Synthetic biology is ‘out-accelerating evolution’ – expert
• Bio-crime today is ‘like computer crime in the Eighties’
• Viruses could be used to influence behaviour – and we may have to ‘learn how to counterattack’
• ‘One of the most powerful technologies in the world’

By Rob Waugh 09:26 GMT, 14 December 2011​

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Californian biologist Andrew Hessel says, ‘Cells are living computers and DNA is a programming language,’ but warns that this could lead to viruses and bacteria used to ‘hack’ human minds​

The field of ‘synthetic biology’ is in its infancy. We can ‘tweak’ the genetics of life forms – but billionaire entrepreneur Craig Venter only created ‘artificial life’ for the first time last year, christening his life form ‘Synthia’.​

But experts working within the field believe that our expertise is out-accelerating natural evolution by a factor of millions of years – and some warn that synthetic biology could spin out of control.​

It could lead, says Andrew Hessel of Singularity University, on Nasa’s research campus, to a world where hackers could engineer viruses or bacteria to control human minds.​

Hessel believes that genetic engineering is the next frontier of computing.​

‘This is one of the most powerful technologies in the world,’ says Hessel ‘Synthetic biology – the writing of life.’​

‘I advocate that cells are living computers and DNA is a programming language.​

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As hard as it is to believe, what many might think is the last bastion of total privacy, namely, the human mind, is quickly becoming just as vulnerable as the rest of our lives with the invention of mind-reading devices, brain implants and other ways to “hack” the mind.

Now security researchers from the University of California, Berkeley, the University of Oxford and the University of Geneva, have created a custom program to interface with brain-computer interface (BCI) devices and steal personal information from unsuspecting victims. The researchers targeted consumer-grade BCI devices due to the fact that they are quickly gaining popularity in a wide variety of applications including hands-free computer interfacing, video games and biometric feedback programs.​

Furthermore, there are now application marketplaces – similar to the ones popularized by Apple and the Android platform – which rely on an API to collect data from the BCI device. Unfortunately with all new technology comes new risks and until now, “The security risks involved in using consumer-grade BCI devices have never been studied and the impact of malicious software with access to the device is unexplored,” according to a press release.​

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The individuals involved with this project – which resulted in a research paper entitled “On the Feasibility of Side-Channel Attacks with Brain-Computer Interfaces,” include Ivan Martinovic and Tomas Ros of the Universities of Oxford and Geneva, respectively, along with Doug Davies, Mario Frank, Daniele Perito, and Dawn Song, all of the University of California, Berkeley.​

The findings of these innovative researchers are nothing short of disturbing. They found “that this upcoming technology could be turned against users to reveal their private and secret information.” Indeed, they used relatively cheap BCI devices based on electroencephalography (EEG) in order to demonstrate the feasibility of surprisingly simple and effective attacks. The information that can be gained by the attacks is incredibly sensitive, including, “bank cards, PIN numbers, area of living, the knowledge of the known persons.”​

Most troubling is the fact that this represents “the first attempt to study the security implications of consumer-grade BCI devices,”​

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Thus, this allowed the researchers to discover with surprising accuracy which bank the subject uses, where they live, and other information which could potentially be highly sensitive. The key to capturing this information seems to be making the subject remain unaware of the fact that they are being attacked either through specially formulated “games” designed to steal personal information from the mind of the target or through a false sense of security engendered by social engineering techniques.​

Personally, I find it quite troubling that people could have their personal information stolen simply by playing what they think is a normal game controlled by a BCI device when in reality it is a carefully engineered piece of software designed to pull private data from the target’s mind. As Anthony correctly points out, “Moving forward, this brain hack can only improve in efficacy as BCIs become cheaper, more accurate, and thus more extensively used.”​

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Tech News « Mind Computers​

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Reversing this process and inserting data rather than retreiving it, is simply a matter of time.​

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More recently, DARPA’s Silent Talk programme has been exploring mind-reading technology with devices that can pick up the electrical signals inside soldiers’ brains and send them over the internet.
With these implants, entire armies will be able to talk without radios. Orders will leap instantly into soldiers’ heads and commanders’ wishes will become the wishes of their men


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[Randall]

Wow! Great posts everyone. Now briefly to the issue Spooky asks, "Why?" What does all this add up to when you consider this point of view? An alien science experiment with us as the subject matter? If so, that means a combination of curiosity and some sort of agenda, presumably because the information must be considered useful in some way. Useful for what? We have alien hunters on TV ... are we in some kind of reality show for them I wonder? They can tune into whatever we're doing. So might they consider us a form of entertainment like we do the Nature Channel? Tune into Channel "Earth" and see what they're doing on that little blue ball.

 

[mike]

Ive many a times suggested the why might be that "they" are themselves advanced expressions of this sort of technology.

"I think it very likely -in fact inevitable-that biological intelligence is only a transitory phenomenon, a fleeting phase in the evolution of intelligence in the universe."​

Paul Davies -acclaimed physicist, cosmologist, and astrobiologist at Arizona State University."​

That Technology and lifes greatest instinct, Survival, logically take any sentient species to that place.
That our species is primitive, not by any measure of our gadgets (though thats an element), but rather our biological nature in and of itself.
I posit that where we are still a primitive biological sentience, that the vast majority of advanced ET are the next step up, That they have engineered themselves to the next inevitable phase.
Biological platforms for conciousness make sense in a biosphere like earth, but a space and possibly time traversing species would better better off post biological in nature

Streibers Visitors according to him, have something to do with the dead.
Are they using their technology to upload us when our bioforms wear out ?

If so, and its an IF , i present ideas not answers. I have plenty of the former and none of the latter.

But if thats what they are doing, it might make sense to "hint" at this without actually spelling it out in black and white.
When transplanting organs we use drugs to prevent the rejection of said organs. when transplanting conciousness, perhaps its helpful for that conciousness to have at least a simplistic view about "life after death" religion, ghosts,spirits..... all these memes could serve to condition us against outright mental rejection and psychic trauma when the transfer takes place.

 

[Wade]

Very intriguing hypothesis...if I understand it correctly...but if these beings are post-biological, isn't the various forms they have taken over the decades be themselves biological ? From some of the accounts I've read they seem to have a tangible nature to them. Also if they wanted to go about this in a orderly way and for whatever reason take a corporeal form I would think they would want to do it as with little trauma (psychologically) as possible, and it would probably be less stressful if these entities took the form of a human being like the tall nordics that were once reported. Maybe there is a reason they would need to take on the form of the little grey for biological reasons despite the fact it is traumatizing to the people who are abducted ?

 

[mike]

When you think about it there is a basic parallel of premise when you compare

"I think it very likely -in fact inevitable-that biological intelligence is only a transitory phenomenon, a fleeting phase in the evolution of intelligence in the universe."​

Paul Davies -acclaimed physicist, cosmologist, and astrobiologist at Arizona State University."​

With a meme held by billions the planet over.

That when you die, you get a new uncorruptible body with which to reside in off planet ie the heavens ,nirvana , paradise etc, forever.

Is that an outdated simplistic description of a more complex technologically acheived post biological reality ?

 

[mike]

Very intriguing hypothesis...if I understand it correctly...but if these beings are post-biological, isn't the various forms they have taken over the decades be themselves biological ? From some of the accounts I've read they seem to have a tangible nature to them. Also if they wanted to go about this in a orderly way and for whatever reason take a corporeal form I would think they would want to do it as with little trauma (psychologically) as possible, and it would probably be less stressful if these entities took the form of a human being like the tall nordics that were once reported. Maybe there is a reason they would need to take on the form of the little grey for biological reasons despite the fact it is traumatizing to the people who are abducted ?

I think it could be both, conciousness stored on a non biological platform, utilising manufactured biological vessels as Biological waldoes if and when required

Remote manipulator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Then again the sense one is dealing with a biological entity could itself be no more than an implanted neural pattern designed to create that effect.

Ive always thought a good idea for a space faring sentient, would be to travel the distance on the brainframe technology, perhaps using virtual reality to pass the time.
And then when you get to a target planet, use a mechanical probe to acquire some local DNA.
Use that to build a biovessel and transfer to that vessel for dirtside operations, linking back to the brainframe so that in the event the biovessel gets destroyed, you are still safe.
(we saw this in avatar iirc)

 

[Randall]

I think it could be both, conciousness stored on a non biological platform, utilising manufactured biological vessels as Biological waldoes if and when required ... travel the distance on the brainframe technology, perhaps using virtual reality to pass the time. And then when you get to a target planet, use a mechanical probe to acquire some local DNA. Use that to build a biovessel and transfer to that vessel for dirtside operations, linking back to the brainframe so that in the event the biovessel gets destroyed, you are still safe. (we saw this in avatar iirc)

There was an episode of Stargate that was very similar, but used suspended animation for the bodies and a VR reality to pass the time. In ufology, perhaps that's what these Grays are, a bioframe for "dirtside" operations. Maybe that's why they need the occasional biosample from the locals, something they can use as a template to build an environment compatible bioframe. On one level, this would make them genetic engineers, so maybe some of the weird animals people have spotted also have something to do with that.