Gareth,
Quite right - Mac was always up front about saying that someone else (a commenter at his PHB blog, I think) came up with the term "cryptoterrestrials."
I think what gets many people in ufology upset is that Mac encouraged (as do I, and Nick and Greg) people to think for themselves, and not simply accept the dogma that is handed to them - which doesn't mean that all ideas have equal merit, or that all people are discussing things from an equal level of knowledge. That's what the debate is for - to determine the validity of ideas, based on one's knowledge.
Mac realized that it was more important to be asking the right questions than proclaiming what you believed to be the right answers. That's just one of the reasons why he's sorely missed by those who knew him.
Paul
Great show Paul, Gene, Nick and Greg. The ETH crowd are so certain they are right that everyone else must be wrong. Sad really. Ufology is more about personalities than the data. The theories that are explored in UFO books.
Come from stories that were told thousands of years ago.
Vallée was the only person in the field who saw this and presented a good case for this and that makes him unique among other UFO researchers. Mac's theories are interesting because we could be dealing with a long lost ancient civilization that are few in number today? It could explain the deception that is happening which is pretty obvious. The Betty and Barney is interesting leave aside what Stan wrote in his book about Aliens from Zeti Reticuli.
In the other Thread i discussed the possibility of a Alien race called the Tuatha de Dannann. I presented evidence, some of it was speculation, and some was historical.
Is there evidence for this Race IN Modern Ufology?
Travis Walton case... Blonde haired Aliens and Small looking grey looking... Aliens>>Blonde haired Aliens fit the description of the Tuatha.
Betty and Barney UFO case... Barney wasn't well-researched with the UFO field. His Wife had more more of an interest than Barney.
Barney described and this are his first accounts of his experience.. That the Beings he saw were Humanoid. He said one looked like an Irishman ( red or blond hair more Irish thousands of years ago had this colour hair)
Irishman looking ALIEN? Then Barney said later; The being looked like an Nazi and later we got the small beings that are in Stan's book. Again which account is right?
Antonio Villas Blonde alien UFO case from Brazil. Again fits the description of the Tuatha
A recent case from Australia. Bill Chalker UFO researcher book( hair of the ALIEN) claims a Contactee got a hair sample from A Blonde haired human looking Alien and he tested it. DNA tests found a rare Mongol/ Asian type DNA and a Rare Basque/Gaelic DNA in one hair sample from a blonde white women. That is very unusual if true?
Is this further evidence of a lost Civilization that was once living on the planet? They're an offshoot of the human species? A human looking species from another world?
There is more cases of this type that i haven't discussed. I've a culture bias no doubt, but let us put it Together and see if it makes sense.
Ancient myths and legends and history of an Alien blonde race... Most of those type of stories come from Ireland. That is the first fact.
Other Ancient cultures had interactions with a blonde race but there is no larger mythos like there is in Ireland.
Hudson valley UFO flap is interesting. Philip Imbrogno believes the Stone structures that were scattered around New York were build by Ancient Explorers( The Celt) His book the Celtic mysterious explored the possibility. He found were the Large UFO triangles were appearing. They were in the Exact area were these stone ancient structures are.
UFO cases of today. I outlined four of the more well-known cases to argue my point. There could be lot of evidence, that we are overlooking, that might confirm their identity? But we have to review the whole history of ufology( ancient accounts and modern accounts) to do this.
It just a theory. I couldn't be entirely wrong here and I'm open to be proven wrong.
Yes the paracast interview by Gene & Host Paul, Nick and Greg nice to hear good academic thinking and out of the box theories. Well done guys and much more on Mr Mac Tonnie's "Water World"maybe in the future focusing on the USO concepts and underwater Worlds?
