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This is from Wikipedia: The band itself has for the most part ignored such claims; in response to the allegations, Swan Song Records issued the statement: "Our turntables only play in one direction—forwards". Led Zeppelin audio engineer Eddie Kramer called the allegations "totally and utterly...

Simple question: do you believe that the Led Zepplin example shown in the video was purposefully planted by the band or anyone else?

Well, if that picture has a good back-story, I might be interested. Right now, I'm not sure what it's supposed to be. Can you give me the details about who took it and when and what the paranormal claim is? By the way, you sound like you might get into the Jamesons a little bit now and then...

I'm not sure what you're quibbling about. I'm not all that familiar with Shermer but the video you posted seems like about 14:11 of entertaining common sense to me. Are you saying that the backwards talk is deliberate by Led Zepplin? Are you quibbling about his opinion that this is the...

Great leaping tricksters! I believe we got a true skeptic loose among us! Hellz, yes, I'm a skeptic and proud to be one, even if it's kind of a dirty word around here. True critical thinking is thin on the ground on this forum, but the advertisers know who they're dealing with, you may be...

My friend, I was in the army. I went active duty in 1975, but spent most of my military career in Germany and never saw any combat. I’m sure your combat experience makes you more qualified than me to speak for all Cold War vets. Still, I worked with a great many other soldiers and I have to...

Ah, the personal attack. All out of ammunition? I say Bentwaters was mostly a lighthouse with some real human hysteria and misperception mixed in. I have been there. The lighthouse light is visible through the woods, very low, because the woods are at a much higher elevation than the sea...

OK. Prove to me that there is no Santa Claus. You can't. Some negatives can be proven, but they are very rare in discussions of this type. Of course there are such things as UFOs. For some people, the planet Venus is a UFO. When I was a teenager and besotted with the works of Ivan...

I hear you. Dreams are powerful things. Years ago my wife had a dream in which I did some things for which she is still angry with me. And I have never even met the woman in question. I have caught myself on several occasions incorporating dreams into my memories. The best example of this...

I don't know how to respond to this. Can you tell me some vividly described legends that you don't believe? Do you believe that Mohammed flew up to heaven on a winged horse in front of thousands? Does Thor hurl thunderbolts? Zeus? If you don't believe that Medusa had a head full of snakes...

The evidence generated by the cited entities has not amounted to much, as far as I know. Most of the supposed breakthroughs are very ambiguous and well within the margin of error of flawed experimental design. In any event, where's the beef? I know, for example, that the government put some...

Not silly. Many on this forum claim that these things are explainable --- by tricksters, aliens, cryptos --- so they are being asked to prove these explanations. It is not too much to ask that these explanations be backed up by good hard evidence. Speculations are fun, but many on this forum...

Excellent points. Science will nearly always follow the money. Places like MIT and the east and west coast elite universities spin off scientific start-ups like mushrooms on a damp lawn. The very fact that there is little if any scientific pursuit of paranormal topics is an indication that...

F-C, your pithy post pierces right to the heart of this debate. This could be the start of a beautiful friendship.

Not all human eyewitness testimony is unreliable, granted, but the whole perception thing is too fraught with the possibility for error to serve as conclusive proof for paranormal events. Science has a wonderful record of helping us to gain an understanding of the world. A truly...

Where to begin? It's nearly impossible to prove the non-existence of something. You can't prove that Santa Claus isn't real. Reason does suggest that it's more likely that fallible human beings are making mistakes, dreaming, lying, hoaxing, telling stories than that there is a...

Sorry, K. I thought I was responding to a quote by Chris. My bad. That paragraph needs a response from Chris, if anybody.

What would you like to discuss? Some here have noted that I sound angry. I didn't think I was giving that impression but there is no denying that year by year I am becoming a grouchier old man, so I accept the label. What I'm really searching for is knowledge --- Truth, if you will. When the...

So you're going to stand by your statement that the concept of the trickster makes about as much sense as science? I'd be interested to find out how many on this forum agree with that statement. People have always seen mysterious and puzzling things. Given enough data, science has always...

No, the concept of the trickster does not make as much sense as science. What a silly statement. Science has produced results. The trickster is just a useless hypothesis which can't be refuted because any attack on it can be blamed on the trickster himself! It gets nobody any closer to the...