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I think crop circles started off as a joke and have developed into an art-form in the same way that graffiti has. I suspect there are groups all around the world trying to 'out-do' each other - kudos goes to the most elaborate patterns. They do it in secret because they're basically destroying...

If it's fake, my guess is someone pasted in a picture of a Mud Skipper... ...the easiest way to achieve it would be to throw a large stone into a pond, take some snaps of the ripples and then 'paste in' an up-scaled image (with an inverted reflection).

My question is - even if you could authenticate the picture, what does it tell you? For what it's worth, it looks like a chunk of concrete perhaps wedged on another piece of concrete that's lying flat on the river-bed. When I go walking, I often pass shallow streams and ponds which do have...

That's a fine answer, Mike. Now, have you got an answer to the question I asked?

So, how do we apply that to the UFO question? Let's take the prediction that some UFOs are ET craft. Now, please explain how I test that prediction?

Well, I believe he was a member of the Nazi youth (no kidding), so you're not far off...

Looks like a young Peter Cook to me, but I could be mistaken...

Well, this is the problem, isn't it Rob? You haven't said much at all, so I've no idea what you are or are not disputing. As far as this thread goes, I 'peaked' at post #72 - it's been downhill since then. My enthusiasm for this topic is diminishing with every additional post I have to make on...

I could sense you were building up to this sort of response by the tone of your previous posts. I don't think you do 'get it', because that's not what I'm saying at all. Why would I want to 'bolster UFO accounts'? My issue is with the rejection of the possibility that science may not be able to...

:( Arrrghhh, the energy is being drained... This...is...the...last...time...must...stay...concious... The major part of this thread is a conversation between Mike and myself about his statement that he was certain that science could 'close the gap' on the UFO phenomena based on the 'past...

Re-read the entire thread for the answer to your question.

Yes. That is correct.

Okay, well we've clarified that point now. Thanks.

Of course not. I never claimed I could.

I'm not talking about anything in exact terms. I'm theorising about the possibility that there may be some phenomena that cannot be adequately studied by the scientific method due to the nature of their physical reality.

Well, all I know is that in the UK at least, the Church of England is one of the richest organisations in the country with assets greater than £6,000,000,000 GBP (six billion) - they were criticised for investing in a technology company that manufactured weaponry such as bombs and missiles...

That's something we can agree on. Personally, I would never make such a bold claim. Well, I'm not questioning the usefulness of the scientific method, only it's ability to explain everything. The crux of my argument is that while it's understandable that people marvel at the progress of the...

I dunno. I thought the prefix "Well, you could look at it this way..." might have suggested a 'possible argument' rather than a 'statement of fact', but now we've clarified the semantics of my post, we can move on...;) I suppose the forum post editor needs one of those 'fuzz' indicators that...

Dunno. What's 'crazy'? Holding a non-conformist view? Acting in a non-conformist way? The crazy people think they're 'normal'. What's 'normal'? And repeat and then rinse...:D This 'yes' or 'no' thread is great, isn't it? :cool:

We have people like that here in the UK - we call them 'politicians'. :D