Gene and Randall feature a return visit from Richard Hoffman, an Executive Board Member for the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU), who has been investigating the UFO phenomenon for over 52 years. He first got involved in UFO researcher as a teenager when he was assigned a school paper on the subject. His curiosity resulted in a lifelong pursuit of the truth behind the mystery. Over the years, Rich has explored a number of fascinating UFO cases, some of which he’ll describe on this episode. This interview will also focus heavily on the latest developments in UAP research, and the possibility of disclosure; that is, if there’s anything to disclose.

Gene and Randall present author/screenwriter/producer for Bryce Zabel for a wide-ranging discussion that includes super heroes and his alternative history about what many regard as the best rock group of all time, “Once There Was a Way: What if The Beatles Stayed Together?” But the main topic is about the possibility of UFO disclosure. Nearly 10 years after the speculative fiction story he and Richard M. Dolan wrote about the subject, “A.D. After Disclosure: When the Government Finally Reveals the Truth About Alien Contact,” Zabel talks about what he regards as the improved prospects for the secret of the UFOs — or UAPs — finally being revealed. But what about theories about demonic UFOs, or whether other countries might be poised to reveal the truth as to what they are before the U.S. finally gets around to it? Note: This interview continues on the February 16, 2020 episode of After The Paracast.

Gene and Randall welcome that ever-prolific author on all things paranormal, Nick Redfern. Here Nick begins the episode with a strange story about a newspaper reporter who died, perhaps under mysterious circumstances, while en route to cover a flying saucer convention in the California desert. It was the 1950s, with Cold War paranoia rampant, and the FBI was building dossiers on such contactees as George Adamski and George Van Tassel in order to seek evidence of possible communist influence. Indeed, was the original message of peace and brotherhood all a cover for efforts to convert loyal Americans to communism? Those were indeed curious times.

In a very special “Shop Talk” episode, Gene and Randall hang with David Stone (stonehart in the forums) an active forum participant and a paranormal theorist. The wide range of discussions include current issues in the UFO field and whether it makes any difference. And what about the skepticism about the credentials of Luis Elizondo, the reported head of the Pentagon’s Advance Aerospace Threat Identification Program? There are also forays into pop culture and a discussion about rock musicians that appear to be interested in UFOs by dint of their songs, and even a sighting or two.