Gene and Randall, joined by forum regular Mark Jackson for a special roundtable, where a host of subjects are on the agenda. In addition to the state of UFO research, the trio moves on to cutting-edge research. In response to news that Google may have made a breakthrough in developing a quantum computer,  there is an extended conversation about quantum mechanics, consciousness, whether we are all living in a simulation, and even a brief debate about using the acronym UAP instead of UFO. Randall explains why he regards UFO as more informative in defining the main goal of research into the phenomenon.

Gene and Randall present the irrepressible UFO researcher and conspiracy theorist Lorien Fenton, who  became actively involved in the San Francisco Bay Area UFO Community after a near death experience in 2009. She is currently the MUFON Marin and Sonoma counties Section Director. Lorien’s nonprofit, Conscious Community Events, produces UFO CON, which is held annually in the San Francisco Bay Area. She also produces the Super Soldier and Mind Control Summits that cover the topics of Targeted Individuals, Transhumanism, “Super Soldiers and Monarchs” and more. If that wasn’t enough, she hosts two weekly radio talk shows, The Fenton Perspective and The Fenton Files.

Gene and Randall present UFO researcher and podcaster Martin Willis. Martin has been fascinated with the subject of UFOs since his youth, yet he was on the fence about the subject until he experienced a personal sighting in 2006 in Carmel Valley, CA.  Pondering what UFOs may be, or if they are possibly extraterrestrial, helped spark his interest to another level. Martin thinks we may never find out what people are really seeing, but in his opinion, it is a most important and exciting puzzle to solve. Whatever the answer will be, he doesn’t think it will be mundane. In his day job, Martin is a longtime antique and fine art appraiser.

Gene and Randall introduce Kelly Farmer, host of the Explaining Esoterica podcast. On her show, Kelly explores the ideas and theories of researchers in the areas of Ufology, mythology, consciousness, and ancient civilizations. Her goal is to bring these concepts and research to the greater population, especially to those who may not have had much exposure to the various subjects covered. She interviews members of the community to discuss these deeper subjects and showcase their research in a visual and easily digestible format. By discussing it from an analytical point of view, she helps her audience gain a better understanding of the hard work these researchers do.