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what do you think of 12/21/12 as the end times? how about the maya?
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Ask me again on 12/22/12
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And probably after that. There have been ongoing predictions of doom and gloom over the years that have never come to pass.

Of course, Earth could be hit by an asteroid, and then it would be all over, without Bruce Willis to send into space to redirect it first

Barring any unforeseen celestial catastrophe, I'd expect that we stupid Earthlings can probably do something so nasty that we'll just terminate our own existence at some point in the future.

But until then...
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Hi All,

Coincedentially one of my last forum posts here back in March 2007 was on this very same topic. (although i've been an avid weekly listener from your archives to the show)

I'll cross-post what i wrote the last time:

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The History Channel in their "Decoding The Past" Tv series did an episode on the Mayan Calender. Link

Besides the typical historical back story of the Mayan Calender itself. It makes two scientific correlations that are indirectly related to it, even by chance.

1) On December 21st, 2012 the day the current age of the Mayan Calender ends. Is also the very same day astromony (not astrology) states our Sun will align with the very center of our Milky Way Galaxy. Knowing astronomy 101 that in the very center of all galaxies lays massive black holes. With the Mayan mythology about the underworld at the very center of our Galaxy. How the two avatar like brothers saved their father from trickery in a bad deal with the Underworld overlord. It's depicted in that basketball slash soccer game that the Mayan's created long ago.

So our Sun may have inscreased solar activity, possibly causing a record number of droughts or solar flames to the Earth. If not other strange theoretic gravitional pulls being in alignment with the very center of the Milky Way.

2) Is a Earthly geological event they called "Procession". Where every 25,800 - 26,000 years our Earth does a full rotation on it's axis. Thus the Earth tilts to a new orbit on its axis slightly. Where it completes this full rotation on December 21st, 2012.

Some concerned or exagerrated voices state a magnetic pole shift could occur. Or that this is a component to why "Climate Change" is happening. Since the Earth is adjusting gradually to a new orbit on it's tilted axis. Which in relation to our moon will have rebounded effects to the tidal wave balance or what not.
Link to former thread in the General msg board.
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Hi All,

Coincedentially one of my last forum posts here back in March 2007 was on this very same topic. (although i've been an avid weekly listener from your archives to the show)

I'll cross-post what i wrote the last time:

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The History Channel in their "Decoding The Past" Tv series did an episode on the Mayan Calender. Link

Besides the typical historical back story of the Mayan Calender itself. It makes two scientific correlations that are indirectly related to it, even by chance.

1) On December 21st, 2012 the day the current age of the Mayan Calender ends. Is also the very same day astromony (not astrology) states our Sun will align with the very center of our Milky Way Galaxy. Knowing astronomy 101 that in the very center of all galaxies lays massive black holes. With the Mayan mythology about the underworld at the very center of our Galaxy. How the two avatar like brothers saved their father from trickery in a bad deal with the Underworld overlord. It's depicted in that basketball slash soccer game that the Mayan's created long ago.

So our Sun may have inscreased solar activity, possibly causing a record number of droughts or solar flames to the Earth. If not other strange theoretic gravitional pulls being in alignment with the very center of the Milky Way.

2) Is a Earthly geological event they called "Procession". Where every 25,800 - 26,000 years our Earth does a full rotation on it's axis. Thus the Earth tilts to a new orbit on its axis slightly. Where it completes this full rotation on December 21st, 2012.

Some concerned or exagerrated voices state a magnetic pole shift could occur. Or that this is a component to why "Climate Change" is happening. Since the Earth is adjusting gradually to a new orbit on it's tilted axis. Which in relation to our moon will have rebounded effects to the tidal wave balance or what not.
Oh, there are lots of things that can be correlated with that amount of time. I do favor the astro-zodiac ones, however. Once in a while, a nutcase comes up with some good stories, and I like the Rand Flem-Ath book, "Atlantis Blueprint" for this one. The idea that humans have only been intelligent for the last 10,000 years of 'civlized' agricultural living is a pet peeve of mine. Most of the time scales of other species are in the hundreds of thousands and millions of years, yet we are supposed to believe that 'Poof!', humans all of a sudden became communicators and inventors. This is used to substantiate the religious monotheists' stories and patriarchal authority. Once you throw that away, and listen to your inner animism (and look at Stonehenge for a while), you realize that we are kept from really accepting our evolutionary past and the size of the time scale involved. The zodiacal calendar is a 24 or 48000 year idea (I forgot which one), and involves 2000 year cycles of precession of the stars that are visible when the sun rises. We are just ending the age of Aquarius, which dawned with Jesus (the symbology of the fish, which was taken from a fertility symbol), and Flem-Ath shows how the Sphinx symbolizes the age of Leo. I am fascinated by the possibilities of our past civilizations. Long periods of evolution contradict the ET spawning theories, however. It's hard to say we were 'seeded' by aliens if we can demonstrate a continuous evolutionary development which is intimately tied to the Earth's biosphere. Pretty hard for aliens to come and live among us if every living thing on our planet has evolved only to live with our biota, solar spectra, and radiation levels.
This is one of the main reasons I put most UFO's under the probability category of "Secret Military/Cabal projects".
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Hello.

I posted information regarding the Mayan Long Count Calendar in another thread awhile back. I think this URL will take you to it: http://www.theparacast.com/forums/2012-are-the-aliens-warning-us-t-47.html#pid10992

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The damned Baby Boomer generation has latched on to this end of the world Mayan Nonsense.

I CANNOT WAIT til the day comes when they're all in their bomb shelters waiting for the end of the world.
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Hello.

I posted information regarding the Mayan Long Count Calendar in another thread awhile back. I think this URL will take you to it: http://www.theparacast.com/forums/2012-are-the-aliens-warning-us-t-47.html#pid10992

pasted from that link: "All that is going to happen is that the calendar will get reset to day zero (not one apparently). This is the same thing that we will do when we buy a new 2008 calendar at the end of 2007. There is no difference."
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The difference lies in the fact that the Mayans concerned themselves with things that would affect their offspring for generations, and that they actually had a calendar that would last for 5000 years.
We only concern ourselves with getting to the weekend or the next vacation days without having to buy another calendar.

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Hello.

I posted information regarding the Mayan Long Count Calendar in another thread awhile back. I think this URL will take you to it: http://www.theparacast.com/forums/2012-are-the-aliens-warning-us-t-47.html#pid10992

pasted from that link: "All that is going to happen is that the calendar will get reset to day zero (not one apparently). This is the same thing that we will do when we buy a new 2008 calendar at the end of 2007. There is no difference."
-Derek
The difference lies in the fact that the Mayans concerned themselves with things that would affect their offspring for generations, and that they actually had a calendar that would last for 5000 years.
We only concern ourselves with getting to the weekend or the next vacation days without having to buy another calendar.

ag
The calendar system that the Maya used was absolutely amazing, but people thinking that the world will end when the calendar resets is profoundly dumb. The long count calendar resetting is no different than our Gregorian calendar resetting on every January 1st. That's what I meant by "there is no difference."

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Anything out there in the vein of destruction-of-the-world-on-a-particular-date is pure hogwash and fear-mongering. Humans are going to be fine.
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