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Remember the under Baltic Sea UFO shaped thing?
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Elendil
Paranormal Maven
Here's something from the Facebook page, some guy's post:
Absolutely awesome interview with Dennis in Radio today, and for they who not understand swedish here is ruffly what he sad: The object is perfectly 100% circular, 60meters diameter-like a big muchroom, very smooth and hard, last time they were down there they tried ty cut of pieces of it but couldn´t, it was to hard, but this time they will have much heavier tools to use on the object, on top of the object there is corridors and rooms with 90 deegre angles, the walls of the corridors and rooms are 7-8 meters high, measured from the floor wich is the smooth top of the muchroom and about this detail the reporters asked Dennis twice and he explained it twice in the same manner, he also explained to the reporters that the feeling of the object is that it definately is constructed. Many thanks to Dennis for giving this informative and clear interview, awesome and Gods Speed to Dennis and the rest of the OX team, when they know head for more investigation of the object.
Absolutely awesome interview with Dennis in Radio today, and for they who not understand swedish here is ruffly what he sad: The object is perfectly 100% circular, 60meters diameter-like a big muchroom, very smooth and hard, last time they were down there they tried ty cut of pieces of it but couldn´t, it was to hard, but this time they will have much heavier tools to use on the object, on top of the object there is corridors and rooms with 90 deegre angles, the walls of the corridors and rooms are 7-8 meters high, measured from the floor wich is the smooth top of the muchroom and about this detail the reporters asked Dennis twice and he explained it twice in the same manner, he also explained to the reporters that the feeling of the object is that it definately is constructed. Many thanks to Dennis for giving this informative and clear interview, awesome and Gods Speed to Dennis and the rest of the OX team, when they know head for more investigation of the object.
Kieran
Paranormal Adept
If its constructed what time period are we looking too here? As for as i know the Baltic sea has been there for millions of years and this object is below the sea now.
Skymon876
Paranormal Adept
Skymon876
Paranormal Adept
Extended Interview with Peter Lindberg
Mass interview with Peter Lindberg:
20/21-06-2012
Source: Log In | Facebook
Peter L:
Hello friends, I have not written anything here in a while, can maybe be explained by the fact that I have really been out there --. I will drop you some of my believes:
1. I do not believe that the circle is a wreckage of an flying craft from WWII till rescent time (or from some thousands of year back for that matter)
2. I do not believe the circle is a wreckage of any kind of known floating vessels from the past or from modern time.
3. I do not belive the cicle is a construction made by someone efter the ice age (submarine bases etc included).
4. I do belive the surface of the circle is made of mineral.
5. I do belive that the surface looks like concrete through the ROV camera but I do not belive it's made of concrete.
6. I do belive that the very strait lines and angular formations we can see on the side scan sonar image from last year really excists. The odd thing is that I thought, before this expedition that when we could get close these shapes maybe should appear not being so straight as on the side scan sonar image, in reality they are even straighter! It really looks like constructed parts on the circle.
7. I do belive it might have been volcanic activity in the area and even on (or in) the circle after the ice age, or before, but then it do not fit with what we know about the ice age.
8. I do belive that the circle "rests" on top of what looks like an pilar of rock, raising approx 8 meters above the surrounding bottom. The circle it self appears to be approx 4 meters thick. In other words, the top of the circle raises 12 meters above the surrounding bottom.
9. I do belive we must find out on the next expedition if the circle and the pilar are fixed in one piece or if they are sepparated in some way.
10. I do belive that the path, or the track, is a ridge raising slowly up from the bottom to a hight of approx 8 meters above the surrounding bottom. I also belive that the ridge is made of softer material than the pilar and the circle.
What I do not belive because I know, is the fact that we found a round hole approx 25 cm in diamater going straight into the surface of the circle, how odd is not that? How deep? No idea, we just saw it for some seconds before we decided to back off to preserv the visibility for the divers that was going down later on. They did not find the hole though. It might be some more holes, at this moment we do not know.
Well some comments on that before I continue with some more belives.
Cheers Peter.
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** LINK to remote viewing Peder asks about: CO-ORIDNATE REMOTE VIEWING UFO / USO ? - YouTube
Peder: Peter have you had any thoughts on the "remote viewing" videos that in the last 4 minutes describes a very similar structure to what you are describing. I know it is not a scientific source but there is some intriguing correlations.
Peter L: Regarding the "remote viewing": Yes, the last guy gives quite a spooky resembling explanation. Maybe he's right if we find any more holes
--
Erik: Thx Peter. The mystery thickens. Looking forward to lab reports, 3D sonar scans and your next dive. : )
Peter L: More pictures will come, a still picture from the video sequence of the hole has been released to the press to day. 3D Multibeam sonar data take a while to process. It will not be untill end of next week we will be able to see the first 3D images from the area. I have seen the raw data though and if what I have seen will be confirmed by the finnished result we will get some quite amazing facts to think about.
--
Per: Thanks Peter. Have you had any thought to bring other people into the project at this point or are you funded enough so that you can do a thorough investigation?
Peter L: Per: Funds are always welcome--.
Mass interview with Peter Lindberg:
20/21-06-2012
Source: Log In | Facebook
Peter L:
Hello friends, I have not written anything here in a while, can maybe be explained by the fact that I have really been out there --. I will drop you some of my believes:
1. I do not believe that the circle is a wreckage of an flying craft from WWII till rescent time (or from some thousands of year back for that matter)
2. I do not believe the circle is a wreckage of any kind of known floating vessels from the past or from modern time.
3. I do not belive the cicle is a construction made by someone efter the ice age (submarine bases etc included).
4. I do belive the surface of the circle is made of mineral.
5. I do belive that the surface looks like concrete through the ROV camera but I do not belive it's made of concrete.
6. I do belive that the very strait lines and angular formations we can see on the side scan sonar image from last year really excists. The odd thing is that I thought, before this expedition that when we could get close these shapes maybe should appear not being so straight as on the side scan sonar image, in reality they are even straighter! It really looks like constructed parts on the circle.
7. I do belive it might have been volcanic activity in the area and even on (or in) the circle after the ice age, or before, but then it do not fit with what we know about the ice age.
8. I do belive that the circle "rests" on top of what looks like an pilar of rock, raising approx 8 meters above the surrounding bottom. The circle it self appears to be approx 4 meters thick. In other words, the top of the circle raises 12 meters above the surrounding bottom.
9. I do belive we must find out on the next expedition if the circle and the pilar are fixed in one piece or if they are sepparated in some way.
10. I do belive that the path, or the track, is a ridge raising slowly up from the bottom to a hight of approx 8 meters above the surrounding bottom. I also belive that the ridge is made of softer material than the pilar and the circle.
What I do not belive because I know, is the fact that we found a round hole approx 25 cm in diamater going straight into the surface of the circle, how odd is not that? How deep? No idea, we just saw it for some seconds before we decided to back off to preserv the visibility for the divers that was going down later on. They did not find the hole though. It might be some more holes, at this moment we do not know.
Well some comments on that before I continue with some more belives.
Cheers Peter.
---------
** LINK to remote viewing Peder asks about: CO-ORIDNATE REMOTE VIEWING UFO / USO ? - YouTube
Peder: Peter have you had any thoughts on the "remote viewing" videos that in the last 4 minutes describes a very similar structure to what you are describing. I know it is not a scientific source but there is some intriguing correlations.
Peter L: Regarding the "remote viewing": Yes, the last guy gives quite a spooky resembling explanation. Maybe he's right if we find any more holes
--
Erik: Thx Peter. The mystery thickens. Looking forward to lab reports, 3D sonar scans and your next dive. : )
Peter L: More pictures will come, a still picture from the video sequence of the hole has been released to the press to day. 3D Multibeam sonar data take a while to process. It will not be untill end of next week we will be able to see the first 3D images from the area. I have seen the raw data though and if what I have seen will be confirmed by the finnished result we will get some quite amazing facts to think about.
--
Per: Thanks Peter. Have you had any thought to bring other people into the project at this point or are you funded enough so that you can do a thorough investigation?
Peter L: Per: Funds are always welcome--.
Skymon876
Paranormal Adept
Jerry: what about more pictures?
Peter L: More pictures will come, no more diver taken pictures though, not before untill next expedition. The production company is right now working with the ROV films and still pictures from them will be released.
--
Nicolas: why did you chose to realese the two pictures we now all know ? Regarding what you have just described, it seems that there was more spectacular ones to show --.
Peter L: It is up to the production company, who makes the documentary, which pictures will be released. They do not know about all we have seen with the ROV. It take some time to tape everything over to a format with which they can use, and people have their working hours. I think though that they must be like 10 persons working with this now.
--
Kevin: Any Gauss effects noted?
Peter L: I can not tell, I do not know at this moment
--
Per: What kind of resolution/accuracy can be expect of the ROV?
Peter L: Bad resolution, we have been sponsered by Ocean Modules with an "older" model of the V8 Sii ROV. It should not be able to send both video and the "real time sonar" images at the same time through a 450 meter cable (which we had) but it worked, though on the expence of the quality of the video. On the next expedition they will provide us with a newer modell and then we will probably get much better quality on the video.
*http: //Ocean Modules V8 Sii ROV
--
Kevin: We have some confusion as to whether you obtained samples of the discs or just the surrounding rocks?
Peter L: We have recovered two loose stones laying on the circle
--
Peder: Could they take any samples from the stones from the circke or was the material to hard?
Peter L: They are doing lab tests on the stones right now. But I think we will find that they are made of quite common minerals. I believe that since there is loose stones laying on the circle the circle must be from pre-ice age. The ice has dropped the stones when it melted away.
--
Damian: We have read in the media about a volcano with strange cloud? Why is the cloud so strange?
Peter L: The strange about the cloud is that it looked like a very distinct "plume" of something that catched the echo sounder beams so hard that it looked like a big rock hoovering in midwater, above the "volcano". I think we might have found something which is active in the way of like a "black smooker" or that maybe heated water is jetting out under high pressure. But this was not in the area of the circle, this volcano was found many miles away. We will certanly go back and try to find out if the "plume" just was a very densed shool of fish or something else.
--
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533336_4115452493075_1400759615_n.jpg
*drawing adjusted later with the specifics from Peter in this mass interview.
Conny: Would you be so kind and look at the drawing of Paul Woodthorpe? Is it similar to the objekt?
Peter L: The pillar is thicker than on Pauls artistic drawing, the circle might be like 1-4 meters wider than the pillar.
--
Adam: I'm not getting this I guess. So the rocks were above the circle on ice and over time made its way down on top? They are unrelated?
Peter L: It might be like that, I do not know but if I must bet my money on something I would go for the possibility that the circle is of pre-ice age - age.
--
Yann: What do you "Feel" it is this discovery?
Peter L: 99% a natural formation, unique in its kind though, and also that we have found an area in the Baltic with volcanic activity. And the last percent? Well 0.9 % that it is remains from an ancient civilisation and 0.1 % that some aliens took an asteroid and made a space craft out of it. As someone asked me: Who have decided that an alien space craft must be made of somekind of metall--.?
--
Peder: you are thinking its vulcano activity that have created it?
Peter L: We have no idea how the hole was created, it is very round though--.
--
Matthew: Also is there magnetic disturbances?
Peter L: Matthew: The divers said that a "blackish" powder had attract to the camera, I did not see it my self though. An other thing is that we could not use the satelite phone when we where laying above the circle, but just some tenth of meters off postion the phone worked. i do not know why but it is a fact. Further more, the video camera's lights blow when the diver started them up on the surface when testing them before dive # 2. They decided anyway to bring the video camera with them and try to use their ordinary lights to iluminate for the video. When they decended the video camera started to showing an "error" message on the small monitor. The diver restarted the camera several times and finnaly it seamed to work. So he filmed their dive but nothing was on the tape when waching it afterwards. The only problem we had with the ROV was that we constantly had to restart the sonar. Finally it did not work and we continued with just the video camera. When we left the circle we went to a wreck and spent like 35 hour of ROV flying on the wreck and the sonar worked all the time. Magnetic disturbances, well you tell me!
--
Peter L: Someone asked about what temperature we had down there. Well the divers thermometer showed -1 degree Celsius when they were on top of the circle, it should be +4 degree Celsius. The thermometer may have showing a wronly value of course.
Peter L: The divers thermometer is a part of their dive computors, I do not know for sure how it messure the temperature. But most probably by a resistor. You know, platina has a ressitance of 100 ohms at 20 degree celsius. Many electronically thermometers messure the temperature with some kind of resistor.
--
David: Thanks for the info Peter. Still wondering if you think the object may be hollow.
Peter L: I can not reveal the truth before I have all the facts. Till then everything is pure speculations, even from my side. I have not thought about if it can be hollowed, I have not even penetrated the surface yet--.
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The "meringue" of which the divers have taken a picture is laying on the circle. What looks like bottom besides it is actually the top of the circle it self. There is not only straight lined formations on the circle. I'm not really sure but I think the "meringue" is the smaller round object you can see up to the right on the "original" side scan sonar image from last year. I'm not really sure because the divers did not know where they were except *someone near the outer edge of the circle.
The divers had only about 15 minutes down there before they had to start their ascend. The short time and the bad visibilty makes it very difficult for them to find something to take photos of. They also have to move very slow and gentle not to stir up the silt which will destroy the little visibility they have.
*Sorry, I meant: "--.somewhere near the outer--."
--
Paul: Apologies for my confusion Peter, but can you just clarify your meringue comment--. are you saying that this photo is actually a large rock on top of the mushroom object and not the actual massive anomaly, and is possibly the large circle image at the back of the millenium falcon sonar image? (I hope that makes sense?)
Photos of The Ocean Explorer | Facebook
Peter L: Paul: You have got my explenation right
--
Peter L: On next expedition we will spend more hours on just filming with the ROV to get a complete overview
------
Ok folks, soon you will here: "Elvis has left the building--.". A few more questions before I hang up though, "bring'm on!"
LINK Log In | Facebook
--.
Peter L: A new expedition will take place in approx three weeks.
--.
Adam: Do you believe the lines you talked about are natural? And thank you very much for your time.
Peter L: The lines can be made by natural causes, but they looks very "man made".
--
Hauke: I read about cracks with a black substance inside- how big are this cracks ? are they irregular and where on the circle are they ? hope this hasnt been asked already !
Peter L: As you understand it is very much in this that points toward this not being just a "stone formation". The cracks seams not to be irregular, they seams to go vertically or horizontally. Behind them you can see a blackish collored mineral(?) with the structure of old wooden planks
--
Tet Lin: is there a time frame that you can't go out to do the expedition anymore because of the approach of winter?
Peter L: We still have some months before it is too late going out to the site. But as it looks like now it will be last expedition for us. I think a real scientiffic team should take over and make a real scientiffic exepdition to the area. After all, we are just wreck hunters who's trying to find out what we a have discovered.
--
Suzanne and Jez: Peter was it true there were a lot of equipment problems whilst diving on the object?
Peter L: Yes thats right
--
Patrick: Regardless of what it is at the moment, it does sound to be constructed-- Are you having the object brought to the surface?
Peter L: God no! It must weight tremendous much, like thousands of tons.
At this point I can't dismiss the following theories: A volcano (active or not active), remains from an ancient civilization, a natural rock formation, an unnatural rock formation, an object from outer space (natural or not natural including meteorite and asteroid). What I belive I can dismiss is that it is a construction made after the ice age including submarine traps and similar things.
We have found information which support several different theories. Next expedition will be vital to outrule as many of them as possible.
We have not been contacted by any authorities yet, no American, Russian or even Swedish.
We will send a camera down the hole if necessary. It might be a shallow hole and we can see the bottom with the ROV's camera, if not we will send down a probe camera.
Peter Lindberg.
Log In | Facebook
** more posts by Peter and Dennis posted today, but one can easaly find those in the group.
Be sure to check the official Ocean X team Facebook group!
Peter L: More pictures will come, no more diver taken pictures though, not before untill next expedition. The production company is right now working with the ROV films and still pictures from them will be released.
--
Nicolas: why did you chose to realese the two pictures we now all know ? Regarding what you have just described, it seems that there was more spectacular ones to show --.
Peter L: It is up to the production company, who makes the documentary, which pictures will be released. They do not know about all we have seen with the ROV. It take some time to tape everything over to a format with which they can use, and people have their working hours. I think though that they must be like 10 persons working with this now.
--
Kevin: Any Gauss effects noted?
Peter L: I can not tell, I do not know at this moment
--
Per: What kind of resolution/accuracy can be expect of the ROV?
Peter L: Bad resolution, we have been sponsered by Ocean Modules with an "older" model of the V8 Sii ROV. It should not be able to send both video and the "real time sonar" images at the same time through a 450 meter cable (which we had) but it worked, though on the expence of the quality of the video. On the next expedition they will provide us with a newer modell and then we will probably get much better quality on the video.
*http: //Ocean Modules V8 Sii ROV
--
Kevin: We have some confusion as to whether you obtained samples of the discs or just the surrounding rocks?
Peter L: We have recovered two loose stones laying on the circle
--
Peder: Could they take any samples from the stones from the circke or was the material to hard?
Peter L: They are doing lab tests on the stones right now. But I think we will find that they are made of quite common minerals. I believe that since there is loose stones laying on the circle the circle must be from pre-ice age. The ice has dropped the stones when it melted away.
--
Damian: We have read in the media about a volcano with strange cloud? Why is the cloud so strange?
Peter L: The strange about the cloud is that it looked like a very distinct "plume" of something that catched the echo sounder beams so hard that it looked like a big rock hoovering in midwater, above the "volcano". I think we might have found something which is active in the way of like a "black smooker" or that maybe heated water is jetting out under high pressure. But this was not in the area of the circle, this volcano was found many miles away. We will certanly go back and try to find out if the "plume" just was a very densed shool of fish or something else.
--
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533336_4115452493075_1400759615_n.jpg
*drawing adjusted later with the specifics from Peter in this mass interview.
Conny: Would you be so kind and look at the drawing of Paul Woodthorpe? Is it similar to the objekt?
Peter L: The pillar is thicker than on Pauls artistic drawing, the circle might be like 1-4 meters wider than the pillar.
--
Adam: I'm not getting this I guess. So the rocks were above the circle on ice and over time made its way down on top? They are unrelated?
Peter L: It might be like that, I do not know but if I must bet my money on something I would go for the possibility that the circle is of pre-ice age - age.
--
Yann: What do you "Feel" it is this discovery?
Peter L: 99% a natural formation, unique in its kind though, and also that we have found an area in the Baltic with volcanic activity. And the last percent? Well 0.9 % that it is remains from an ancient civilisation and 0.1 % that some aliens took an asteroid and made a space craft out of it. As someone asked me: Who have decided that an alien space craft must be made of somekind of metall--.?
--
Peder: you are thinking its vulcano activity that have created it?
Peter L: We have no idea how the hole was created, it is very round though--.
--
Matthew: Also is there magnetic disturbances?
Peter L: Matthew: The divers said that a "blackish" powder had attract to the camera, I did not see it my self though. An other thing is that we could not use the satelite phone when we where laying above the circle, but just some tenth of meters off postion the phone worked. i do not know why but it is a fact. Further more, the video camera's lights blow when the diver started them up on the surface when testing them before dive # 2. They decided anyway to bring the video camera with them and try to use their ordinary lights to iluminate for the video. When they decended the video camera started to showing an "error" message on the small monitor. The diver restarted the camera several times and finnaly it seamed to work. So he filmed their dive but nothing was on the tape when waching it afterwards. The only problem we had with the ROV was that we constantly had to restart the sonar. Finally it did not work and we continued with just the video camera. When we left the circle we went to a wreck and spent like 35 hour of ROV flying on the wreck and the sonar worked all the time. Magnetic disturbances, well you tell me!
--
Peter L: Someone asked about what temperature we had down there. Well the divers thermometer showed -1 degree Celsius when they were on top of the circle, it should be +4 degree Celsius. The thermometer may have showing a wronly value of course.
Peter L: The divers thermometer is a part of their dive computors, I do not know for sure how it messure the temperature. But most probably by a resistor. You know, platina has a ressitance of 100 ohms at 20 degree celsius. Many electronically thermometers messure the temperature with some kind of resistor.
--
David: Thanks for the info Peter. Still wondering if you think the object may be hollow.
Peter L: I can not reveal the truth before I have all the facts. Till then everything is pure speculations, even from my side. I have not thought about if it can be hollowed, I have not even penetrated the surface yet--.
----------------------
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The "meringue" of which the divers have taken a picture is laying on the circle. What looks like bottom besides it is actually the top of the circle it self. There is not only straight lined formations on the circle. I'm not really sure but I think the "meringue" is the smaller round object you can see up to the right on the "original" side scan sonar image from last year. I'm not really sure because the divers did not know where they were except *someone near the outer edge of the circle.
The divers had only about 15 minutes down there before they had to start their ascend. The short time and the bad visibilty makes it very difficult for them to find something to take photos of. They also have to move very slow and gentle not to stir up the silt which will destroy the little visibility they have.
*Sorry, I meant: "--.somewhere near the outer--."
--
Paul: Apologies for my confusion Peter, but can you just clarify your meringue comment--. are you saying that this photo is actually a large rock on top of the mushroom object and not the actual massive anomaly, and is possibly the large circle image at the back of the millenium falcon sonar image? (I hope that makes sense?)
Photos of The Ocean Explorer | Facebook
Peter L: Paul: You have got my explenation right
--
Peter L: On next expedition we will spend more hours on just filming with the ROV to get a complete overview
------
Ok folks, soon you will here: "Elvis has left the building--.". A few more questions before I hang up though, "bring'm on!"
LINK Log In | Facebook
--.
Peter L: A new expedition will take place in approx three weeks.
--.
Adam: Do you believe the lines you talked about are natural? And thank you very much for your time.
Peter L: The lines can be made by natural causes, but they looks very "man made".
--
Hauke: I read about cracks with a black substance inside- how big are this cracks ? are they irregular and where on the circle are they ? hope this hasnt been asked already !
Peter L: As you understand it is very much in this that points toward this not being just a "stone formation". The cracks seams not to be irregular, they seams to go vertically or horizontally. Behind them you can see a blackish collored mineral(?) with the structure of old wooden planks
--
Tet Lin: is there a time frame that you can't go out to do the expedition anymore because of the approach of winter?
Peter L: We still have some months before it is too late going out to the site. But as it looks like now it will be last expedition for us. I think a real scientiffic team should take over and make a real scientiffic exepdition to the area. After all, we are just wreck hunters who's trying to find out what we a have discovered.
--
Suzanne and Jez: Peter was it true there were a lot of equipment problems whilst diving on the object?
Peter L: Yes thats right
--
Patrick: Regardless of what it is at the moment, it does sound to be constructed-- Are you having the object brought to the surface?
Peter L: God no! It must weight tremendous much, like thousands of tons.
At this point I can't dismiss the following theories: A volcano (active or not active), remains from an ancient civilization, a natural rock formation, an unnatural rock formation, an object from outer space (natural or not natural including meteorite and asteroid). What I belive I can dismiss is that it is a construction made after the ice age including submarine traps and similar things.
We have found information which support several different theories. Next expedition will be vital to outrule as many of them as possible.
We have not been contacted by any authorities yet, no American, Russian or even Swedish.
We will send a camera down the hole if necessary. It might be a shallow hole and we can see the bottom with the ROV's camera, if not we will send down a probe camera.
Peter Lindberg.
Log In | Facebook
** more posts by Peter and Dennis posted today, but one can easaly find those in the group.
Be sure to check the official Ocean X team Facebook group!
GeoShift
Paranormal Maven
2012-06-28
“A very interesting image of the object, from above with 90 degrees angles. This is at the top of the object. For me it looks constructed.” Dennis Åsberg.
Not sure, is this the image He's talking about?
The Ocean Explorer
“A very interesting image of the object, from above with 90 degrees angles. This is at the top of the object. For me it looks constructed.” Dennis Åsberg.
Not sure, is this the image He's talking about?
The Ocean Explorer
ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM
Whittingham
Natural objects ?
Man Made?
Just money making PR job?
Man Made?
Just money making PR job?
Para
Paranormal Maven
At this moment.. I, myself, have no idea.
stonehart
Paranormal Adept
For those who are interested in the geological history of the area in question this PDF is a good starting point (Basic introduction).
http://www.hyria.fi/files/2859/BalticSea_geological_development-DRAFT280410.pdf
It takes a little while to load up.
http://www.hyria.fi/files/2859/BalticSea_geological_development-DRAFT280410.pdf
It takes a little while to load up.
stonehart
Paranormal Adept
For those who are interested in the geological history of the area in question this PDF is a good starting point (Basic introduction).
http://www.hyria.fi/files/2859/BalticSea_geological_development-DRAFT280410.pdf
It takes a little while to load up.
http://www.hyria.fi/files/2859/BalticSea_geological_development-DRAFT280410.pdf
It takes a little while to load up.
Artyom
Paranormal Maven
And here is the reaction from the world of science, although I'm tempted to put science in quotes as it's not really a scientific way of thinking Is the Baltic Sea 'Sunken UFO' an Elaborate Scam? | UFO News | LiveScience
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stonehart
Paranormal Adept
Thanks for that is more or less what I am thinking myself. However that is not a very scientific news item.. more of an opinion but a good one none the less.
Kieran
Paranormal Adept
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This is turning into one of the most amazing and perplexing discoveries in history. If you thought all of the questions surrounding the Baltic anomaly would be answered by the return trip, then you’d be wrong. The OceanX team have discovered right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object as well as something resembling a staircase – the weird just got weirder.
rom the different reports and interviews given we have amassed the following details of the anomaly.
- Completely circular plate-like exterior.
- 180 metres in circumference.
- Object is 200ft accross mushroom shaped comprising a thick pillar rising 8 metres out of the seabed with a 4 metre thick dome on top (like a mushroom shape) – rising a total of 12 metres (approx 40 feet) high above the surrounding seabed.
- Cavities-like corridors inside the object.
- Straight and smooth walls in certain areas with many right angles.
- There are visible formations on top of the object, which are set at a 90 degree angle and look like passageways or walls, as well as something that looks like it could be a staircase.
- Stone circles, like “fireplaces”, of hard black “almost petrified” burnt looking stone each a few inches in diameter, like 4 or 5 pearls in a necklace in various arrangements on top of the dome.
- Spherical object nicknamed “The Meringue” (pictured below) is 4 metres wide and sits on top of the object.
- Twenty-five centimetre hole on top of the object, it’s not known yet where it leads or what if anything is inside.
- Long runway or “skid marks” leading to object point north.
The latest revelations of right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object are if possible, far stranger than any UFO could ever hope to be. In fact a UFO find would now seem positively mundane.
In a recent Swedish radio interview, Aasberg described some amazing features which seem to indicate that the object is man made, or perhaps a natural formation that has been altered or engineered. In various radio and TV interviews the team have described the surfaces of the dome to be similar to concrete both in texture and appearance. The massive pillar on which the dome rests may be made of a different material indicating that the entire anomaly may not be one complete piece but rather two separate objects with the dome resting on top of the main pillar, and if so, who or what placed the dome on top? Also, when we say pillar – this is a pillar that is approx 180-190 feet thick.
“We arrived there twice, and the question mark has become so much bigger now, “says Dennis Åsberg.The area is a completely circular plate with 180 metres in circumference, and therefore believed that it was the first traces of a meteor.”
“But there are 1,500-metre track in bed until the subject matter-and they have also discovered right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object.– When we went out and saw the walls which were straight and smooth, it was frightening, as in a science-fiction film, “says Dennis Åsberg on Ocean x-team as soon exploring the unknown object again.“
Baltic Anomaly: Far Stranger Than Any UFO Discovery
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Posted on June 27th, 2012
This is turning into one of the most amazing and perplexing discoveries in history. If you thought all of the questions surrounding the Baltic anomaly would be answered by the return trip, then you’d be wrong. The OceanX team have discovered right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object as well as something resembling a staircase – the weird just got weirder.
Truthfall Special Report by Craig Brown
3D Sonar reveals perfectly straight lines and angles embedded into the round structure. - Click image to enlarge“When we went out and saw the walls which were straight and smooth, it was frightening, as in a science-fiction film” – Dennis Åsberg – Ocean Explorer Co-Founder
From the different reports and interviews given we have amassed the following details of the anomaly.
The latest revelations of right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object are if possible, far stranger than any UFO could ever hope to be. In fact a UFO find would now seem positively mundane.
Very poor visibility down to only several feet in the Baltic because of all the sediment.Now it seems that as more and more information is revealed, the mystery surrounding the object grows. The good news for everyone who is intrigued by this story is that a THIRD expedition by the team will set off in approximately two weeks – the OceanX team will be hoping to rule out some of the possible explanations and collect even more data to shed light on this most perplexing mystery.
“A new expedition will take place in approx three weeks.” – Peter Lindberg, co-founder OceanX Team (approx 2 weeks now at time of publishing)
Artist Hauke Vagt's revised and updated image of what the anomaly looks like in it's entirety.
The original side-scan sonar image
The sidescan sonar shows the main anomlay (left) and the second anomaly which has yet to be explored.Right angles, smooth surfaces and cavitiy-like corridors inside the object
In a recent Swedish radio interview, Aasberg described some amazing features which seem to indicate that the object is man made, or perhaps a natural formation that has been altered or engineered. In various radio and TV interviews the team have described the surfaces of the dome to be similar to concrete both in texture and appearance. The massive pillar on which the dome rests may be made of a different material indicating that the entire anomaly may not be one complete piece but rather two separate objects with the dome resting on top of the main pillar, and if so, who or what placed the dome on top? Also, when we say pillar – this is a pillar that is approx 180-190 feet thick.
“We arrived there twice, and the question mark has become so much bigger now, “says Dennis Åsberg.The area is a completely circular plate with 180 metres in circumference, and therefore believed that it was the first traces of a meteor.”
“But there are 1,500-metre track in bed until the subject matter-and they have also discovered right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object.– When we went out and saw the walls which were straight and smooth, it was frightening, as in a science-fiction film, “says Dennis Åsberg on Ocean x-team as soon exploring the unknown object again.“
Circular formations of rocks - placement and arrangement in circle seems deliberate.Stone Circles or “Fireplaces”
During the dive, the team swam slowly over the top of the object looking down where they encountered the first of many strange sights. Stone circles, like “fireplaces”, of hard black “almost petrified” burnt looking stone each a few inches in diameter, like 4 or 5 pearls in a necklace in various arrangements on top of the dome some 12 metres high off the seabed. The stones appear to be arranged in definite circular shapes, so there is no possibility of this being done through any natural process of weathering or even glaciation.
Stefan Hogeborn, 47, is a veteran of 6000 dives spanning his 20 year career and is one of the expert divers who was completely mesmerized by what he saw. “Normally stones don’t burn,” Hogeborn said. “I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions,” he added.
The Hole
Also visible and shown in some of the released video footage is a strange hole (pictured below) in the top of the object. The hole is described to be approx 25 cm in diameter. Where it leads to or exactly what it’s purpose is is yet unknown. It is thought that this feature will be investigated further when the team return to the site again in 2 weeks
In the initial sonar imagery there appeared to be what looked 1000+ metres of what looked like like skid marks or a disturbed seafloor area leading to the object. According to the dive team what it now looks like to them is what can only be described as a “runway” or “downhill path” that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it. Co-Founder Peter Lindberg describes this feature of the site as a ridge raising slowly up from the bottom to a height of approx 8 meters above the surrounding bottom. He also believes that this ridge is made of softer material than the pillar and the dome.
The second anomaly
Some 200 metres away lies the second strange anomaly which is amazingly yet to be explored! The initial sidescan sonar images show something described by the team as shaped like a “gothic church window”. Similar to the main anomaly this object also has an area leading up to it of disturbed seafloor or what could be a ridge. The divers were so amazed by the main anomaly that they simply didn’t have time to dive on the second one. The return trip in two weeks time should present an opportunity for this to finally be explored.
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What is it that the mainstream press is afraid of when reporting anything unexplained and why do they go to such extreme lengths to debunk what they can’t understand?
Whenever a genuine mystery presents itself into the mainstream consciousness and no immediate explanation can be found, a queue of left-brained closed minded types foaming at the mouth will inevitably line up to shoot it down – simply because it defies explanation and must be made to fit their own narrow paradigm at any cost.
Scam story by LifesLittleMysteries.com
The latest offering of establishment defending bile comes from an article entitled “Is the Baltic Sea ‘Sunken UFO’ an Elaborate Scam?” which surfaced a few days ago on the site – LifesLittleMysteries.com. Since then, the same article has been reprinted more than a dozen times across many media outlets. More on that in a minute…
Meanwhile, LifesLittleMysteries.com’s “about” page informs us – “Life’s Little Mysteries answers fascinating questions about the world around you and the stuff in it, from things in the news and on your mind to crazy questions you didn’t even know you had. Our team of experienced reporters and editors do serious research while having loads of fun, to explain the world’s objects and phenomena, natural and man-made.”
A quick check reveals the staff have backgrounds writing for a whole host of establishment science publications where 200ft genuinely unexplainable objects that defy known historical timeframes and challenge dogma are about as welcome as weevils in their Cornflakes. So what “serious research” have they conducted into the Baltic Anomaly? Judging by the content and the tone of the article – none whatsoever. Nor did they actually bother to contact OceanX it would seem. Read the rest here/ Baltic Anomaly: Establishment Press Spin Scam Story | Truthfall
FEATURED ARTICLE
Posted on June 27th, 2012
This is turning into one of the most amazing and perplexing discoveries in history. If you thought all of the questions surrounding the Baltic anomaly would be answered by the return trip, then you’d be wrong. The OceanX team have discovered right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object as well as something resembling a staircase – the weird just got weirder.
Truthfall Special Report by Craig Brown
3D Sonar reveals perfectly straight lines and angles embedded into the round structure. - Click image to enlarge
From the different reports and interviews given we have amassed the following details of the anomaly.
- Completely circular plate-like exterior.
- 180 metres in circumference.
- Object is 200ft accross mushroom shaped comprising a thick pillar rising 8 metres out of the seabed with a 4 metre thick dome on top (like a mushroom shape) – rising a total of 12 metres (approx 40 feet) high above the surrounding seabed.
- Cavities-like corridors inside the object.
- Straight and smooth walls in certain areas with many right angles.
- There are visible formations on top of the object, which are set at a 90 degree angle and look like passageways or walls, as well as something that looks like it could be a staircase.
- Stone circles, like “fireplaces”, of hard black “almost petrified” burnt looking stone each a few inches in diameter, like 4 or 5 pearls in a necklace in various arrangements on top of the dome.
- Spherical object nicknamed “The Meringue” (pictured below) is 4 metres wide and sits on top of the object.
- Twenty-five centimetre hole on top of the object, it’s not known yet where it leads or what if anything is inside.
- Long runway or “skid marks” leading to object point north.
The latest revelations of right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object are if possible, far stranger than any UFO could ever hope to be. In fact a UFO find would now seem positively mundane.
Very poor visibility down to only several feet in the Baltic because of all the sediment.
“A new expedition will take place in approx three weeks.” – Peter Lindberg, co-founder OceanX Team (approx 2 weeks now at time of publishing)
Artist Hauke Vagt's revised and updated image of what the anomaly looks like in it's entirety.
The original side-scan sonar image
The sidescan sonar shows the main anomlay (left) and the second anomaly which has yet to be explored.
In a recent Swedish radio interview, Aasberg described some amazing features which seem to indicate that the object is man made, or perhaps a natural formation that has been altered or engineered. In various radio and TV interviews the team have described the surfaces of the dome to be similar to concrete both in texture and appearance. The massive pillar on which the dome rests may be made of a different material indicating that the entire anomaly may not be one complete piece but rather two separate objects with the dome resting on top of the main pillar, and if so, who or what placed the dome on top? Also, when we say pillar – this is a pillar that is approx 180-190 feet thick.
“We arrived there twice, and the question mark has become so much bigger now, “says Dennis Åsberg.The area is a completely circular plate with 180 metres in circumference, and therefore believed that it was the first traces of a meteor.”
“But there are 1,500-metre track in bed until the subject matter-and they have also discovered right angles, walls with absolutely smooth surfaces and cavities-like corridors inside the object.– When we went out and saw the walls which were straight and smooth, it was frightening, as in a science-fiction film, “says Dennis Åsberg on Ocean x-team as soon exploring the unknown object again.“
Circular formations of rocks - placement and arrangement in circle seems deliberate.
During the dive, the team swam slowly over the top of the object looking down where they encountered the first of many strange sights. Stone circles, like “fireplaces”, of hard black “almost petrified” burnt looking stone each a few inches in diameter, like 4 or 5 pearls in a necklace in various arrangements on top of the dome some 12 metres high off the seabed. The stones appear to be arranged in definite circular shapes, so there is no possibility of this being done through any natural process of weathering or even glaciation.
Stefan Hogeborn, 47, is a veteran of 6000 dives spanning his 20 year career and is one of the expert divers who was completely mesmerized by what he saw. “Normally stones don’t burn,” Hogeborn said. “I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions,” he added.
The Hole
Also visible and shown in some of the released video footage is a strange hole (pictured below) in the top of the object. The hole is described to be approx 25 cm in diameter. Where it leads to or exactly what it’s purpose is is yet unknown. It is thought that this feature will be investigated further when the team return to the site again in 2 weeks
In the initial sonar imagery there appeared to be what looked 1000+ metres of what looked like like skid marks or a disturbed seafloor area leading to the object. According to the dive team what it now looks like to them is what can only be described as a “runway” or “downhill path” that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it. Co-Founder Peter Lindberg describes this feature of the site as a ridge raising slowly up from the bottom to a height of approx 8 meters above the surrounding bottom. He also believes that this ridge is made of softer material than the pillar and the dome.
The second anomaly
Some 200 metres away lies the second strange anomaly which is amazingly yet to be explored! The initial sidescan sonar images show something described by the team as shaped like a “gothic church window”. Similar to the main anomaly this object also has an area leading up to it of disturbed seafloor or what could be a ridge. The divers were so amazed by the main anomaly that they simply didn’t have time to dive on the second one. The return trip in two weeks time should present an opportunity for this to finally be explored.
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Baltic Anomaly: Establishment Press Spin Scam Story
What is it that the mainstream press is afraid of when reporting anything unexplained and why do they go to such extreme lengths to debunk what they can’t understand?
Whenever a genuine mystery presents itself into the mainstream consciousness and no immediate explanation can be found, a queue of left-brained closed minded types foaming at the mouth will inevitably line up to shoot it down – simply because it defies explanation and must be made to fit their own narrow paradigm at any cost.
Scam story by LifesLittleMysteries.com
The latest offering of establishment defending bile comes from an article entitled “Is the Baltic Sea ‘Sunken UFO’ an Elaborate Scam?” which surfaced a few days ago on the site – LifesLittleMysteries.com. Since then, the same article has been reprinted more than a dozen times across many media outlets. More on that in a minute…
Meanwhile, LifesLittleMysteries.com’s “about” page informs us – “Life’s Little Mysteries answers fascinating questions about the world around you and the stuff in it, from things in the news and on your mind to crazy questions you didn’t even know you had. Our team of experienced reporters and editors do serious research while having loads of fun, to explain the world’s objects and phenomena, natural and man-made.”
A quick check reveals the staff have backgrounds writing for a whole host of establishment science publications where 200ft genuinely unexplainable objects that defy known historical timeframes and challenge dogma are about as welcome as weevils in their Cornflakes. So what “serious research” have they conducted into the Baltic Anomaly? Judging by the content and the tone of the article – none whatsoever. Nor did they actually bother to contact OceanX it would seem. Read the rest here/ Baltic Anomaly: Establishment Press Spin Scam Story | Truthfall
stonehart
Paranormal Adept
Yes I have seen and read all that already but it is still just conjecture when you think about it, as all we have are a few photos that show very little and a sonar image that has lots of suspicious artifacts in it. (There is video I know but it shows sweet FA as well).
So in the end what do we have to go on right now when you really think about it. Well all we have really is their word for it and artist impressions the previously mentioned sonar images and a hell of a lot of hype.
My BS detector is starting to go off slowly
I guess it remains to be seen as to what the truth of all this really is but I have seen enough BS cooked up in the paranormal field to get a feel for BS when it is being cooked up.
Anyway as you can see the BS meters are not that high yet... Here is what you get when you point one of these things at say Phil Imbrogno
All for the lolz
So in the end what do we have to go on right now when you really think about it. Well all we have really is their word for it and artist impressions the previously mentioned sonar images and a hell of a lot of hype.
My BS detector is starting to go off slowly
I guess it remains to be seen as to what the truth of all this really is but I have seen enough BS cooked up in the paranormal field to get a feel for BS when it is being cooked up.
Anyway as you can see the BS meters are not that high yet... Here is what you get when you point one of these things at say Phil Imbrogno
All for the lolz
