"Mutilated cow creepy, suspicious"

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  1. Christopher O'Brien Moderator Instigator

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    [Thanks to Mike Clelland in Idaho for this lead ---chris]

    Mutilated cow creepy, suspicious
    November 10, 2011
    By Hope Strong
    Article HERE:

    Few clues at crime scene may suggest work of the occult or extraterrestrials

    Crop circles found in a wheat field near the City of Teton in August of 2002 drew attention from across the nation, but the mutilated cow found in a pasture south of Driggs last Thursday has commanded the attention of sheriff’s deputies more than UFO hunters, despite the paranormal nature of the heifer’s death.Zach Griggs leases pastureland for nearly 100 head of cattle near 3000 South in Teton County. Last Thursday, he arrived at this location to change the use of pastures and noticed his cows were scattered. He initially thought duck hunters had disturbed his cattle and then he noticed that one of his cows was dead.

    He approached the animal and identified that its udders were removed, along with its anus, vagina and one eye. “Whoa, this is a mutilation,” Griggs determined before he called law enforcement to investigate. Nine years ago, his family had lost a bull the same way. Along with its genitalia, that bull was missing its tongue as well as an eye and an ear. With both the cow and the bull, all of the blood had been removed from the animal and there were no footprints or tire tracks in the vicinity of the dead animal.

    Teton County Sheriff’s Deputy Blake Fullmer could confirm that the cuts removing the cow’s body parts were not made by another animal, but it has been difficult to find any additional clues in the case to help explain what happened. Between Satanic cults and extraterrestrial activity, Fullmer was not comfortable making a determination.

    “It’s hard to throw those terms out there,” Fullmer said. “I don’t know a lot about that stuff.”

    Cattle mutilation is a subject with which Don Griggs, Zach’s father, is very familiar. As a cattleman as well as a former sheriff’s deputy with Madison County for more than 20 years, Don worked on a number of different cases in which animals were mutilated in the exact same manner, with blood drained from the bodies and the same parts removed with a surgeon’s precision.

    “It’s a cult thing, has to do with devil worship,” Griggs said. “These people are very professional, they’re slick and sophisticated. No one has ever been caught, but that doesn’t mean that it’s UFOs.”
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  2. exo_doc Foolish Earthling

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    “It’s a cult thing, has to do with devil worship,” Griggs said.

    There has been absolutely zero amount of evidence that cattle mutilations have anything at all to do with "Devil Worship", or any other occult activities. It's just a handy excuse for law enforcement and the gullible.
    Check out veteran Police Detective Kerr Cuhulain's website exposing this myth; http://kerrcuhulain.com/Witch_Hunts.php
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  3. trainedobserver Paranormally Disenchanted

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    Someone needs to test that animal and the area for radioactive contamination. Investigators need to take the advice of Gabe Valdez to heart I think, and minimize their contact with the corpses however. Are there Uranium mines or deposits in the area I wonder?

    Open Question: Does anyone know if Gabe Valdez was a vegetarian? Did he eat local beef? Did he ever make any comments along these lines? I can't recall having ever heard or read Mr. Valdez making such a reference. Does anyone else?
  4. Xylo Paranormal Adept

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    I lean towards governmental agencies testing for Mad Cow and other diseases as an explanation into cow mutes. There is also a prevalence for Chronic Wasting Disease in other wild ruminants such as deer so perhaps there are agencies looking for evidence of that as well.
  5. boomerang Paranormal Maven

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    Gabe Valdez' last interview on mutilations was downright scary. He seemed a solid and credible guy incidentally caught up in high tension weirdness he would rather just have ignored. Everything about cattle mutilations screams sophisticated psyops. It's hard to imagine to what end.
  6. trainedobserver Paranormally Disenchanted

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    I think you have to take his findings and conclusions very seriously. The mutilations are the result of highly sensitive, illegally conducted, and highly funded research. The interview he did with UFO Hunters allegedly resulted in the show being not renewed. In that episode he showed them photographs of a bizarre calf fetus with human features that was taken from a mutilated cow.

    Of course one of the first logical questions to ask about this is why wouldn't the outfit conducting this research purchase and maintain their own herds? Why would they return the cattle after they have been mutilated? They want people to associate the activity with aliens, UFOs, paranormal activity, that is to say, anything but human beings. Why? Gabe Valdez told us, "It is sensitive research." Too sensitive for him to mention in that last interview but did he hint at it in the UFO Hunters interview? Genetic research? Human cloning and cross species hybridization? Or is it related to monitoring of radioactive or biological contamination in the food chain? Whatever it is, it is something that can't be talked about openly for fear of public reaction to it and like every real terror encountered by mankind, its origins appear completely human.
  7. SonofaSkunk Skilled Investigator

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    Bingo!
  8. trainedobserver Paranormally Disenchanted

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    It makes no sense in any context that I can come up with other than it is a covert monitoring of environmental contamination using tactics designed to obfuscate the true purpose and perpetrators. These tactics may also be viewed as a platform from which other operations might be run in some secondary manner to more fully take advantage of the infrastructure that would have to already exist to support the activity.

    If Gabe Valdez was correct then there is a biological research facility somewhere within helicopter range of Dulce, N.M. conducting highly sensitive and illegal research that he couldn't touch as a State Trooper. The gas masks, radar chaff, and other physical evidence says it isn't all predators and it certainly isn't alien. That they would employ an on the surface, unnecessary, dangerous, and apparently stupid tactic like cattle mutilation only seems to further indicate this is human and related to the federal government in some way. But who actually knows? I think Gabe Valdez did know but chose not to say for reasons one can only speculate about.
  9. mike Paranormal Adept

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    But surely it has to be cheaper and easier to hide such monitoring, to simply purchase the animals.
    Such tests could be done by simply purchasing samples, than turning up in the middle of the night with helicoptors and night scopes.
  10. trainedobserver Paranormally Disenchanted

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    I agree completely. However, Gabe Valdez investigated these goings on for decades Mike. Decades. He was a trained investigator with real resources at his disposal. I don't think we can disregard his findings and conclusions about what was going on. Do you?

    He seems to have concluded that human beings were conducting extremely sensitive (for which read, DANGEROUS and possibly ILLEGAL) research that he could not reveal due to the "consequences" of doing so. Whether he meant that those consequences were going to personal or public we will probably never know. I suspect these consequences would be for those people responsible and to the public opinion.

    It's freaking madness. That is what it is. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
  11. Gene Steinberg Forum Super Hero

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    I'd rather collect the $200. :)
  12. mike Paranormal Adept

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    Ive followed the recent aspects of the Valdez matter, i dont disregard his findings, but to me the conclusions dont fit the facts.
    Surely if the research was dangerous and illegal, you have more chance of being exposed, within the current scenario, ie helicopters at night, dumping the remains when you are finished.
    You would get a far higher standard of secrecy, simply sending someone to the farm posing as a small town butcher, or a grain rancher who likes to butcher and stock his own freezer.
    It cant be cost since the helicopter fuel would cost more than the purchase of a single head of cattle.
    It would be so simple to get what you want, by simply posing as an agent for a small resturant chain that wants to source its produce by hand picking its beef and offering to pay a premium on the product above what the rancher would get at the abattoir.
    You could acheive your objective without leaving behind a shred of evidence, or sparking a police enquiry as the current scenario does

    No one would EVER suspect, in contrast to the current reality where whats left behind includes questions.............

    It just doesnt make sense to me
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    I don't disagree with anything you've said. It doesn't make sense, but here is the thing. Whoever is doing this isn't perfect, leaving behind evidence of their methods. Obviously, if they will make operational mistakes like leaving gas masks and other debris behind they could be sloppy in other matters of planning and execution.

    If I recall correctly, Valdez said that the perpetrators seemed to be intentionally trying to make it look that aliens in UFOs were doing the mutilations. If there is some theater involved in this business then without some understanding of what their real goals might be, it is practically impossible to assess whether their methods could be improved upon to better achieve those goals. Also, they could be driven by factors such as protocols or even ideologies that make this methodology seem perfectly reasonable to them.

    Something very odd is happening but what is it really? I think the clues say that well funded and highly motivated human beings are willing to break laws and violate civil rights in the pursuit of some goal in which the mutilation of cattle plays some role. Beyond that ...
  14. mike Paranormal Adept

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    It makes just as much sense that the "aliens" are trying to make it look like humans are doing it.:)

    Another scenario that fits is that humans are doing it to make it look like humans are doing it, to cover the ones being done by aliens............

    i cant agree with Valdez when he says

    When whats being left behind is gas masks and other debris.

    Clearly the evidence being left "intentionally" points to humans being responsible

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    Well, no really it doesn't. Aliens should never be considered the default or the most likely of explanations for anything and certainly not cattle mutilations.

    I get the impression that the physical evidence left behind was rare and Valdez had gathered it over the many years of investigation. In most cases apparently, not much is left behind.
  16. mike Paranormal Adept

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    Its all a matter of perspective i guess, imo without definative proof either way both scenarios are on the table.
    It boils down to wether you think aliens exist and are here.
    If you dont thats a perfectly valid pov, and one i share in the context of i dont think santa claus is doing the mutiliations.
    The only possible answer is humans in that case, but imo there are aspects of this phenomena from all around the world that just dont seem to fit the human perpetrator scenario.
    To be honest if it is aliens doing it, i cant fathom why they would bother to make it look like humans were doing it.
    Which leaves me with the question why would humans try and make it look like humans were doing it ?
    Valdez documents finding human artifacts, and is of the opinion some obscure govt agency is behind it.
    So why would humans deliberatly try and make it look like humans are doing it.
    Secret research doesnt fit imo, since they could acheive the "secret" objective far easier and cheaper.
    Without any risk of the local sheriff and FBI looking into it.
    To me it reeks of the classic parlour magic tactic, give the audience something to look at, so they dont notice whats really happening, distract them.
    And If and i say If aliens are behind the genuine mutes, then this tactic is working as evidenced by Valdez's conclusions ie "some obscure govt agency is behind it."
  17. Christopher O'Brien Moderator Instigator

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    Someone or group appears to be monitoring the environment for mad-cow or some other type(s) of environmental pollutants by mutilating and analyzing livestock. That's why it appears (IMO) to be the location that is important--not the particular head of livestock. The Dulce area has been impacted by radiation --possibly from Project Gassbuggy or from buried nuclear waste and/or weapons. This may be why the area was (and probably still is) being targeted. But, that doesn't explain ALL cases....
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    I agree completely. I think it could be a variety of environmental pollutants that is being monitored but radioactive contamination seems high on the list. I agree that it doesn't explain everyone of them, the Skinwalker Ranch incident for example doesn't seem to fit that hypothesis.
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    Personally, I think you have to consider the obvious. What stands out in incidents like these is any effort to produce an explanation fails. From a cause and effect standpoint, one is left with the plausibility that the intended result is theater. Sure, it's challenging to work your way backwards with logic, but.. Come on, this stuff makes no sense! It reminds me of certain concepts found in the early work of systemic psychological researchers, like Bateson and the MRI research group and the MILAN group. What emerged was these notions of trans-generational paradoxical communication process producing sibling pathology and unhealthy family systems.

    What's going on here with high strangeness? We're stuck in paradoxical communication processes and pushed deeper into uncertainty. Which is unsettling. It gets interesting when you consider the possibilities from this standpoint....
  20. boomerang Paranormal Maven

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    This would mean that what is left behind is much more important than what is taken. Which seems to fit the history of mutilations.
    Colossal suspension of disbelief might allow for some kind of special ops rite of initiation, bordering on the occult. And now we are almost back to levels of woo-woo akin to beef hungry aliens from Z Reticuli. But it does look more like stage craft calculated to intimidate or mythologize than genuine scientific research.

    Unless, of course, there could be something very genetically unique about certain individual cows; much in the same way we are led to believe humans are abducted along familial lines.

    Its the same old disinformation fun house !

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