Hello all,
I was born and raised in the yukon, and helped my father run a trapline in the fox lake area as a child. I stumbled across this thread while looking up some stuff today about it just for fun, and it is interesting there has been a recent revival of this siting, and i too came across the explanation here:
SeeSat-L Apr-12 : Old Unknown Identified as a Re-entry
I have driven past this lake, and been fishing in it many times, it is very interesting to me to see the artwork and conceptual drawings of this siting and see how accurately they portray fox lake and the mountains themselves, most of the drawings and sketches ive seen look exactly like the lake if you are driving by on the highway, perhaps next winter i will go take a picture, the sketches are eerily accurate, which I think lends creedence to the witness testimony.
I remember this siting as a teenager, it was in the news briefly, and I think I dismissed it initially as a bunch of yahoos making stuff up, I was in prime highschool years and partying, friends and girls were my first priority, not UFO nonsense. Also back then the comet hale bopp was bright in the sky, although i think the comet was in the opposite direction, if i recall most of the fox lake sightings were toward the NW direction. Hale bopp was visible to south as I recall ( I could be wrong) We also have the northern lights etc. up here and a ton of tourists that get way too excited over nothing. I wont lie there are more than a few odd ducks living out in the woods who would make up some crazy claims, but they are the minority. Google teslin bigfoot for example, we all roll our eyes up here lol.
That said,
in hindsight, perhaps i should not have dismissed it so easily, as I too once witnessed a UFO in southern BC, not as dramatic as the fox lake sighting, but without a doubt it was an object I cannot easily explain, and demonstrated movement capabilities ive never seen before or since anywhere. Regardless of what my logic says, i saw what I saw. End of story, it is undeniable. My instinct until this point in time was that it was UFO, it was the best explanation available to me. However, Since reading about the cosmos 2335 object I am now trying to pinpoint any satellite activity around my personal sighting as a logical justification, and will share if i find anything out.
In regards to the fox lake sighting, I was NOT a witness.
I have to say the fact there was a rocket stage re-entering along the same decay path that many witnesses claim (below big dipper) at the same time (roughly 8:30) is pretty compelling evidence for an "explanation" of this sighting. I felt a bit of a sinking feeling in my stomach when I learned of this as the fox lake sighting was always something I thought was pretty awesome, most likely not a hoax, with some credible witnesses as I have worked with some of the people in the nedaa news video.
NEDAA for people interested is a first nations funded and run broadcasting corp (radio & TV) up here in the yukon.
In the skies up here we get alot of military activity (US and Canadian), and we have no other "traffic" really in the sky. There are a few regular scheduled flights from down south at the airport, and one from frankfurt germany i believe that crosses from over the pole, but nothing once you get out of town. The sky is usually clear, clean, and eithier really well lit in the summer, (hardly any dark) or pitch black in the winter (hardly any daylight) so usually when you see something it is interesting and pretty cool, be it man made or natural.
I was discussing this with my father and he doesn't take the satellite explanation, he still believes it was a legit sighting. Personally i feel I am leaning more toward the re-entry explanation now, but doing so with reluctance, I would have rather this sighting gone unexplained as there are so many hoaxes nowadays, it's just getting sad.
Regardless, it is great to see that whether it was extra terrestrial or not, at worst case there was an actual sighting of unexplained origin and this was not a hoax. People just reported things to the best of their memories.
Thats how we roll up here in the Yukon, we're pretty cool, and for the most part "good" people.
The only evidence I can see to the contrary of the satellite decay explanation is that the time frames don't line up for some of the sightings. There were sightings as late as 10pm in Dawson, which is several hundred km's further north than fox lake. However Fox lake at 8:30 pm seems to be the peak, and where the satellite was visibly decaying, just below the big dipper as people described.
In my mind it is still possible it was a UFO of course, but the booster decay is a very plausible explanation. The odds of an object re-entering along the same path at the same time as witness testimony are no pun intended "astronomical" to say the least.
I wish I had the knowledge to verify the calculations myself, and access to the source knowledge they were based off of to verify authenticity and correctness.
One other thing that stands out to me as well in favour of it being a UFO:
Why does the satobs.org re-entry article reference the UFO sightings, and offer explanations to the "exaggerations" of eye witnesses. This in itself points to deliberate disinformation and an attempt to debunk something over 15 years old now. Made me raise an eyebrow when i got to that part of the article, had me hooked until that point.
For future reference, I would suggest Mr. Ted Molczan stick to the facts and just present the information at hand as so:
"I calculated the decay of this object, here is the info. Make of it what you will."
For that matter, it would be awesome if he or others with his knowledge calculated all the decay of all known objects...could go a long way to solving some unexplained phenomena.
When all is said and done decaying booster or not:
It doesn't mean a UFO wasn't watching the light show as well
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