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New World: Climate Change


New research - cutting edge. This lecture given in October 2014, so she is referencing back to winter 2014. Currently, of course, we are dealing with another extreme winter.

Dr Jennifer Francis (Rutgers) - "Rapid Arctic Warming ...." - Part 1 of 3

TEXT: "Published on Oct 24, 2014
"Rapid Arctic warming and extreme weather events in mid-latitudes: Are they connected?
Seminar by Dr Jennifer Francis
Institute of Costal Science, Rutgers University
Thursday October 23, 2014; 2:30 PM
Wayne State University Welcome Center Auditorium

"Jennifer Francis discusses the hypothesis proposed by Francis and Vavrus (2012) that links rapid Arctic warming (so-called Arctic amplification) to changes in the large-scale atmospheric circulation in the northern hemisphere that favors more persistent weather patterns and a higher likelihood of extreme weather events such as droughts, cold spells, flooding, heavy snows, and heat waves. This hypothesis has been a topic of considerable controversy in recent months, particularly regarding its relationship to the unusual weather conditions that persisted in the winter of 2013/2014. She will discuss various aspects of this linkage, what we know and don't know, and present new related research.

"Jennifer Francis earned a B.S. in Meteorology from San Jose State University in 1988 and a PhD in Atmospheric Sciences from the University of Washington in 1994. As a professor at Rutgers University since 1994, she has taught courses in satellite remote sensing and climate-change issues, and also co-founded and co-directed the Rutgers Climate and Environmental Change Initiative. Presently she is a Research Professor with the Rutgers Institute of Marine and Coastal Sciences and studies Arctic climate change and Arctic-global climate linkages. She and her husband circumnavigated the world in a sailboat from 1980-1985, including Cape Horn and the Arctic, during which her interest in weather and the Arctic began."



Dr Jennifer Francis (Rutgers) - "Rapid Arctic Warming ...." - Part 2 of 3
TEXT: "Published on Oct 24, 2014"


Dr Jennifer Francis (Rutgers) - "Rapid Arctic Warming ...." - Part 3 of 3
TEXT: "Published on Oct 24, 2014"



All that from ms Francis.

And how does she end, theres no link to climate change, maybe in a decade they 'may' find a connection.

quote.

"The biggest challenge in our research," Francis said. "Is that rapid Arctic warming started very recently, so detecting a clear atmospheric response and linking it to a particular cause may take another decade. In the meantime, Mother Nature seems to be acting out."


Ever thought about reading the articles before you put them on your 'wall'.
 
All that from ms Francis.
There it is - the disdain, the contempt. You betray yourself - you are anti-science. Yes, I get that much from what you posted. Fact is, this research is so new you can't find anyone on-line to give you your talking points.
And how does she end, theres no link to climate change, maybe in a decade they 'may' find a connection. quote. "The biggest challenge in our research," Francis said. "Is that rapid Arctic warming started very recently, so detecting a clear atmospheric response and linking it to a particular cause may take another decade. In the meantime, Mother Nature seems to be acting out." Ever thought about reading the articles before you put them on your 'wall'.
Okay, manxman, you've just proved you haven't a clue what science is about - nor why I post what I do. You are not intellectually curious, nor honest - and haven't a clue how to interpret data. I'm guessing you think I'm making an argument. I'm not. Never have been. All's you know how to do when approaching this stuff is to try to find hectoring points. Pretty lame.

Look, chum, you said you were putting me on ignore. What's the deal? Why isn't the ignore button working for you?

P.S. I know I am being harsh with you but you add nothing to the conversation. You have no interest. You are an idea-smasher. You fear. You swing your battle-ax and don't understand what you destroy. Try to think for yourself rather than run the easy way. Far more interesting in the end.
 
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I may have posted this before, not sure - but bears looking at again. McKibbon's book from a few years ago is one of the first to look at the trends and take them into the future. It's going to be far more complicated because the forces coming to bear are manifold - like autonomous cars, or anything else that comes down the pike we are not expecting.

It's always interesting to look back at similar periods of foment - and the 1800' s were such a time. Who could have seen what was coming as Brady laboriously chronicled the American Civil War in early photography - and then there was the
phonograph, the 'moving pictures' - and 'electrification'.

Our future - the world's future - is scattered through all the current foment. As the wise old teacher said: Read the signs of the times.

Eaarth: Making a Life on a Tough New Planet

by Bill McKibben
LINK: Eaarth: Making a Life on a Tough New Planet by Bill McKibben - Powell's Books

TEXT: ""Eaarth offers an imperfect but provocative look at 'the architecture for the world that comes next, the dispersed and localized societies that can survive the damage we can no longer prevent.'" Edward Wolf, The Oregonian

"Twenty years ago, with The End of Nature, Bill McKibben offered one of the earliest warnings about global warming. Those warnings went mostly unheeded; now, he insists, we need to acknowledge that we've waited too long, and that massive change is not only unavoidable but already under way. Our old familiar globe is suddenly melting, drying, acidifying, flooding, and burning in ways that no human has ever seen. We've created, in very short order, a new planet, still recognizable but fundamentally different. We may as well call it Eaarth.

"That new planet is filled with new binds and traps. A changing world costs large sums to defend — think of the money that went to repair New Orleans, or the trillions it will take to transform our energy systems. But the endless economic growth that could underwrite such largesse depends on the stable planet we've managed to damage and degrade. We can't rely on old habits any longer.

"Our hope depends, McKibben argues, on scaling back — on building the kind of societies and economies that can hunker down, concentrate on essentials, and create the type of community (in the neighborhood, but also on the Internet) that will allow us to weather trouble on an unprecedented scale. Change — fundamental change — is our best hope on a planet suddenly and violently out of balance."


Amazon Review: "The front cover of Bill McKibbean's "Eaarth" contains a quote by Barbara Kingsolver urging the reader to drop everything and read the book straight through. What Kingsolver doesn't mention is that once you begin reading the book it'll be impossible to stop.

"McKibben describes a place so strikingly different from the planet Earth we have always known, that it has to be renamed to "Eaarth." McKibben's writing is easy to read and his ideas are clear, but his thesis is overwhelming to any reader: "The earth that we knew--the only earth that we ever knew--is gone." (pg 25) At times, reading the book is similar to the experience of watching a carwreck - it's heart-wrenching but you can't force yourself to look away.

"A lot of readers will probably dismiss Eaarth based on its "environmentalist agenda" - they'll say that McKibben is simply another tree-hugger attempting to instill fear about the world of the future, or to borrow McKiben's explanation as to why we haven't stopped climate change thus far - "the world of our grandchildren." But if this is true, then we definitely need more people like the author of Earth, as it doesn't seem that anyone is listening - currently, "44 percent Americans believe that global warming comes from 'long-term planetary trends' and not the pumps at the Exxon station." (pg 54)

"McKibben is probably one of the very few to steer us into the the direction of thinking that we can't restore the old Planet Earth. Thinking that driving hybrid cars and taking shorter showers will restore the ice caps in the Arctic is unrealistic. We need a major overhaul of our infrastructure and our logic to even adapt on this New Earth we created. It's no longer enough to admit that global warming is real and to want to adjust a few things in our daily lives - we must realize that our daily lives are gone in the way we've known them.

"The author's suggestions of how to adapt to living on this new and changed Earth are hopeful and rely on getting rid of industries, on going back to a more simplistic lifestyle of individual farming, moving the entire infrastructure closer to home, and observing as much conservation as possible. [I do not see this happening because of other forces afoot - though it will likely be an aspect of the advent of localization imo. - Tyger]

" "Eaarth" is a book that should serve as a wake up call, but not in the same way that Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" (book and/or movie) did. By being more Earth-shattering (pun intended), McKibben's book is also more realistic and contains more statistics and McKibben quotes more articles to back up his thesis. However, the book's revolutionary words might also be alienating and can be viewed as a source of despair. In his introduction, McKibben cautions us against this being the case by saying that "[m]aturity is not the opposite of hope; it's what makes hope possible." (pg xiv)

"It is this reviewer's sincere hope that McKibben's book is taken seriously and interpreted as a call to action rather than as a description of challenging events that can no longer be stopped or altered."
 

We are in the midst of it for sure.

THE FISHING INDUSTRY ON ACID
Ocean acidification will hit coastal communities like these the hardest.
BY BRIAN PALMER
LINK: Here's where ocean acidification will hit U.S. coastal communities the hardest

TEXT: "The economy of New Bedford, Massachusetts, ground to a halt in the 1980s after a fleet of high-tech boats fished the region’s once-plentiful cod to exhaustion. Thirty years later, the city is experiencing a renaissance. Scallops have replaced cod, business is booming, and the local economy is riding the wave. Statewide, the value of the scallop catch has risen more than sixfold since 1993—part of the $1 billion-a-year U.S. shellfish industry. “I would never have dreamed that things would be as good as they are,” a New Bedford scallop captain told The Boston Globe in 2013. “Ten years ago even, I would have never believed we’d be in this condition.” What could possibly go wrong now? Plenty.

"A new study suggests that New Bedford is one of many U.S. coastal towns on the precipice of economic collapse—even if they don’t know it yet. The reason: ocean acidification. Acidifying oceans are a result of carbon pollution. As carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere increase, more of that carbon dioxide dissolves in seawater. The dissolved gas increases the acidity of ocean. Approximately a quarter of the CO2 emitted by humans ends up in the sea, and scientists estimate that the pollution is causing oceans to acidify faster than they have in 300 million years.

"As this new report shows, ocean acidification threatens coastal communities in 15 U.S. states on both coasts. (Get fact sheets for specific threats to each of those states.) The social and economic impacts of ocean acidification will not be evenly distributed, according to a new paper out today in Nature Climate Change. The study was led by Lisa Suatoni and Julie Ekstrom, scientists in the oceans program at NRDC (disclosure), along with collaborators from the University of California-Davis, the Ocean Conservancy, Duke University, and nine other institutions. “We mapped local factors that exacerbate ocean acidification,” says Suatoni, “and we found increased vulnerability in places like the Louisiana Bayou, Virginia, and New Bedford.”

"Why would ocean acidification hit some areas harder than others? Water pollution is one factor. Rivers carry nutrient runoff—much of it in the form of manure from farms and sewage plants—into the Gulf of Mexico and the Chesapeake Bay, where that pollution feeds massive algal blooms. The bacteria feeding on the dead algae not onlycreate dead zones by sucking up oxygen but also release large amounts of carbon dioxide as part of their metabolic process. Those CO2 molecules, combined with the carbon from the atmosphere, intensify ocean acidification in these areas. Think of them as acidification hot spots.

"Economics can also make a place especially vulnerable to ocean acidification. This is where New Bedford comes in. The town is now almost completely reliant on scallops to sustain its economy, with the mollusks accounting for 80 percent of the city’s catch as of 2012. Ocean acidification puts those creatures, as well as oysters, clams, and other shelled mollusks, at risk. How? Carbon dioxide reduces the number of calcium carbonate ions in seawater, which makes it difficult for marine life, such as lobsters, snails, and shrimp, to build calcium-based shells and exoskeletons. (“Imagine trying to build a house while someone keeps stealing your bricks,” writes journalist Elizabeth Kolbert in her book The Sixth Extinction.) When acidification becomes extreme, the water literally dissolves the animals’ shells.

"This isn’t just a theory or a prediction: Marine biologists have already observed how carbon dioxide pollution can wipe out calcifying species. There are virtually no corals, for example, near carbon dioxide vents on the ocean floor. The same thing will happen to starfish, sea urchins, clams, oysters, and scallops in increasingly acidic areas. That wouldn’t just send shock waves up the food chain—it would also mean economic doom for places like New Bedford.

"The acidification of the ocean won’t stop any time soon—the process is already far advanced, and the sea can’t neutralize the carbon dioxide nearly as fast as it is being absorbed. It will likely take thousands of years for the sea’s pH to return to normal. Governments around the world have shown little appetite for rapid carbon pollution reductions. But there are steps we could take right now to ease the burden on vulnerable communities—at least for a while.

"Reducing nutrient pollution would be a good start. State and federal governments could enforce limits on how much waste can be released into our nation’s waterways. That would help slow acidification in places like the Chesapeake Bay and the Gulf of Mexico. The NRDC scientists also suggest diversifying fishing fleets and raising shellfish away from souring waters, as well as the development of early warning systems that will tell communities when their waters become corrosive.

"Another potential strategy for the fishing industry is something called “facilitated evolution.” Natural genetic variation makes some scallops, oysters, and clams more tolerant of acidity than others. By selectively breeding those organisms, we might be able to keep some populations viable in a changing environment. Such mollusks might sound like Frankenfood, but they’re not—we’ve been selectively breeding animals and plants for millenia. It’s how we turned kale into cauliflower, and how we inventedpeaches, corn, and cows. So perhaps it’s time to consider the scallop—New Bedford may depend on it. "
 
Redheads could become extinct in Scotland as the country warms up because of climate change | Daily Mail Online

Global warming could lead to the extinction of Scotland's redheads, experts have claimed.

Experts believe that Scotland’s gloomy climate has led to a red hair emerging as a genetic adaptation to help exploit rare sunny days and boost Vitamin D production.

Make them even more popular arm candy, every 'star' will want one.
So they are a climate change winner really, well 'could' be.
They are experts in something, the article doesnt say what that expertise is unfortunately, so its a rosy future for 'some' redheads, possibly.
 
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This piece of science trivia, out of a supposed leading climate change organisation made me think about climate change 'debate' in general.
Warmer waters could spin the Earth faster : Nature News


Its all the same, no matter whichever 'climate change profiteer' are debating whichever aspect of 'climate change theory' they are debating.

All the same whether its smug fat Anthony Watts mixing the fact and fiction or Bill Nye the science guy telling us global warming is attracting incoming comets to earth, thats the future type of debate for the next decade.

People like Watts making a living selling Green energy products, electric cars i think, milking every penny, aslong as they can keep it going, same for career meteorologists, now elevated to science gods, the shoe salesmen of the science pecking order, for 50yrs a safe haven for failed scientists, an under-funded unpaid career, last stop alley, now they rule the science world, and its ''a worlds top scientist said etc'', and funding and pay is not an issue..

Career astrophysicists who send little satellites to far off asteriods or planets, to further mans knowledge play second fiddle the 'new earther' science pecking order.

These physicists have worked out the atmosphere of far off planets down to the last detail, and are rarely surprised by emperical data our probes send back.

Yet when some of those very same scientists, whose careers do no not depend on american funding, describe how the earths atmosphere works, their cranks, ''''they are not meteorologist's'''', and the ''they are not meteorologists'' is said with a straight face, its just absurd.


The adsurdness is in the content of the article, obviously if the days get shorter, ''we live longer'' would be a correct statement, as we will die at a slightly later time on the day we die, if the days did get shorter.
However we would still only live the same amount of hours regardless we were destined to live, So the counter arguement of ''no we wouldnt'' would also be correct.

As i said you can equate most of climate change woo to that, and round and round in circles the climate profiteers go, all pawns in much bigger longer timescale 'game'.
 
Manxman, why is it you seem unable to leave alone any thread that I post on, did someone put you up to it or are you actually stalking me? Go start your own climate thread.....oh wait, you did, but it isn't the same fun cos I'm not there! ;)
 
You are spamming this thread yet again. You do have a malice towards the topic of this thread as proved by your spam. You have been asked - and you have agreed - to keep to Pixel's thread that 'counters' this thread or keep to any number of the other climate change debate threads. Yet you insist on coming on this thread to peddle your denialist hectoring nonsense. Again, this thread is not about debating the science of climate change.

BTW I notice you choose to come on here - rather than go on the 'Politics of Climate Change' thread where links to the scandal regarding Willie Soon have been posted. No interest in dealing with that?

Your posting rights have never been impinged. My right to post without being hectored and bullied - and stalked across the forum - is what is being upheld by Gene.

Please go elsewhere with your posts. Stop spamming this thread. Back off.
 
You are spamming this thread yet again. You do have a malice towards the topic of this thread as proved by your spam. You have been asked - and you have agreed - to keep to Pixel's thread that 'counters' this thread or keep to any number of the other climate change debate threads. Yet you insist on coming on this thread to peddle your denialist hectoring nonsense. Again, this thread is not about debating the science of climate change.

BTW I notice you choose to come on here - rather than go on the 'Politics of Climate Change' thread where links to the scandal regarding Willie Soon have been posted. No interest in dealing with that?

Your posting rights have never been impinged. My right to post without being hectored and bullied - and stalked across the forum - is what is being upheld by Gene.

Please go elsewhere with your posts. Stop spamming this thread. Back off.




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my usage of the forum in total for 5 weeks is there to be viewed above, all blue link, not one allegation you make is true, not one tyger.

This all an effort to erode my right of reply here in Free Wheeling CHIT CHAT, because you dont like me, and you despise my view on the climate change thery scam, you want for me to be singled out, with no right to reply wherever i want like EVERYONE else, a lowerclass, my views are not fit to grace the such epic topic in the dustbin of the paracast, the denier scum needs singled out, maybe you could have denier super imposed on my avater.



Im done with replying directly to you tyger, im not going to allow nonesense allegations to spoil my use of My favourite foum, Gene can sort it as it happens in future.

All this repetitive false allegation is why i cannot just use the forum ignore function, i did do for 3 weeks, but then i saw quoted what you were saying about me, so now i read some of your content, i will not reply again to 'you', the absurdity of your accusations are laid bare above for the management to see i simply use the refresh new posts, and reply on impulse same as anyone one else to latest posts whatever thread it is.

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    C2C, 2-22-15: Hrs 1-2, Jacques Vallee—Hrs 3-4 Ray Stanford!
    Your good you are, i bet you can even tell us the brand. Sophistry at its finest, and said with such authority, a whole post built on the false...
    Post by: manxman, Tuesday at 3:52 PM in forum: The UFO Forum

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    C2C, 2-22-15: Hrs 1-2, Jacques Vallee—Hrs 3-4 Ray Stanford!
    Some people forget to view the event thru zamora's eyes, whilst stood in his police issue boots. ere boss 'guess what'.
    Post by: manxman, Tuesday at 2:57 PM in forum: The UFO Forum

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    The reason my threads were deleted.
    Nice one Gene. Will you confirm which posts have gone missing, and from where please ?, assuming you eventually solve it.
    Post by: manxman, Tuesday at 12:39 PM in forum: Talk About the Forum

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    C2C, 2-22-15: Hrs 1-2, Jacques Vallee—Hrs 3-4 Ray Stanford!
    Interesting that.
    Post by: manxman, Monday at 5:31 PM in forum: The UFO Forum

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    recent post didn't make it to latest threads timeline ?
    Keep talking wise boy, and this is actually the second time youve been in this thread, your new sock puppet was here giving Gene advice about the...
    Post by: manxman, Sunday at 3:44 AM in forum: Talk About the Forum

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    recent post didn't make it to latest threads timeline ?
    Nothing strange at all going on then, silly us.
    Post by: manxman, Sunday at 2:53 AM in forum: Talk About the Forum

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    recent post didn't make it to latest threads timeline ?
    This was charlies thread that was deleted, i made the 4th reply to it....
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    All that from ms Francis. And how does she end, theres no link to climate change, maybe in a decade they 'may' find a connection. quote. "The...
    Post by: manxman, Sunday at 1:08 AM in forum: General Freewheeling Chit-Chat

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    recent post didn't make it to latest threads timeline ?
    You have dissapeared several of mine latelely Goggs, without as much as s a kiss my azz from you. [several= about 6/7], last one was only 2 days...
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    Yep thats got to be £800 a month, frightening, our new station is gas not oil as thought. How does this stack up against your charges in America...
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    Yep i saw i could log in thru facebook.
    Post by: manxman, Saturday at 1:08 AM in forum: General Freewheeling Chit-Chat

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    She/they will do better on social media i think Gene, theres dozens upon dozens of groups to market in, and your [local] area is huge.
    Post by: manxman, Saturday at 12:52 AM in forum: General Freewheeling Chit-Chat

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    Make me think of my shooting days, ''seed hopper pheasant feeders''. Is this just an auto 'seed hopper'', a little seed factory. Thats...
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    In all seriousness ive always favoured seeding over spontaneous.
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    Why would humans put it there ?. Constance over which country was the sample taken.
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    Oopsy, tiredness C, i mixed up their names, 'boy' and 'beyond' and you are right about the place being undermined, anyway post deleted.
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    Bargain for 20 bucks.
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Manxman, I have made it clear that you are not in sync with the spirit of this thread. Gene and other moderators have asked you to stay clear of this thread. Yet, you continue to post to the thread. You continue to feel obliged to counter any post I make.

Therefore, I will leave you to this thread - as I left you to the Denial Silly thread. Though the moment I left that thread, as you know, you followed me over here. I am asking that you not duplicate that stalking behavior this time.

I am starting a new thread that will explore what the world will be like under the supposition of Climate Change. It will explore the consequences of climate change in real time based on the predictions. Those interested, please use the link below.

LINK: What World Under Climate Change | The Paracast Community Forums
 
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