Discover the secrets of the rarely-discussed 1948 Aztec, New Mexico UFO crash with researcher Scott Ramsey. Though sometimes confused with Roswell, the Aztec case is a totally separate incident, with its own wealth of compelling evidence.

UFO experiencers Jeff Ritzmann and Jeremy Vaeni (author of “I Know Why The Alien’s Don’t Land!”) join Gene and David for a frank discussion about the recently-concluded X-Conference and the state of Ufology.

UFO investigator Frank Warren discusses the controversial Walter Haut affidavit, the state of UFO research and other subjects. Among the issues he deals with: Whether it still makes sense to continue to investigate the Roswell case after all these years.

UFO lobbyist Stephen Bassett, Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group; prolific paranormal author Brad Steiger discusses the “Shadow World” and David reveals another personal paranormal encounter.

Conspiracy theory expert Kenn Thomas, publisher of Steamshovel Press, talks about the real conspiracies and the ones that don’t pass the logic test. In addition, controversial “Saucer Smear” editor/publisher Jim Moseley discusses the “Culture of Ufology.”